I love your response here. What great points you have made again.

It’s hard to counter those, and after our conversation, maybe the right way for me to frame my opinion is:

Institutionalized religion is negative on the world and has negative impacts, more than positive impacts, at least from my point of view. Faith, on the other hand, is a necessary point of life. For living, relationships, love, and growth. Knowing there will be a tomorrow when it feels there can’t be one.

I genuinely love these counterpoints and this conversation so far. This is very intriguing and insightful. Thank you for your responses.

I never said it was scientific in nature, but cannot be proven with science and that is extremely abnormal on our planet, in my opinion.

I do recognize your points and they are strong, but the way religion is highly institutionalized takes away from our points in my opinion.

I would argue religion exists to do just that, make sense of the life we are living on earth and after. This the control that comes from fear. Add a sense of urgency, surely someone will bit. But you know who else would sell Jesus Christ? A certain angel by the name of Satan.

Faith is the belief you will wake up tomorrow. Not the belief that an all knowing power will magically allow the born disabled to walk tomorrow.

The proof in the fact that religion is the greatest tool of mass control and manipulation is that there are millions of religions in this world, and none, not a single one, hold scientifically tested and provable hard evidence except “some story some old man wrote about some people who saw something they could not explain 1000s of years ago and put it in a book that we have translated over a 100s of times in 100s of languages in that time period.”

Religion is a tool of control and if you don’t understand that by now, you never will and are too brainwashed to understand what they say is a crock of shit.