Right. So it's not worth having a debate with you.

You think grazing animals in the wild aren't pregnant every year? You think AI is abuse? This is why you get kickback from society. You have no room for gray in your black and white world.

These cows were NOT abused. I get where you're coming from, I do. But you don't know, so don't claim that you do.

I'm a conservation biologist and a vegetarian and I worked on that farm as a teen. They were treated as well as household pets.

You don't get to say I've got the "nerve" when you're making sweeping generalizations yourself.

This is exactly why I said that. Thank you for the perfect example.

Otsego County.

Edit: I see the vegans are down voting. He ran a small, clean, pasture grazed dairy farm in Central NY for 45 years. Those cattle were happy.

A cow nearly stomped a relative of mine to death on his dairy farm, so some of them are assholes; particularly if they have a calf.

Ah, my mistake. That makes sense. Maybe he said their low gain sonar or something to that effect. I'm going by what I felt and what I remember the seaman telling me six years ago. I'm a biologist, not a sailor.

I used to clean boat hulls as a side gig. One day I was getting started on a coast guard cutter and they'd forgotten to turn off the passive sonar. That thing clicked and I could feel it in my skeleton. I can't imagine what the active sonar is like for an animal evolved to hear under water.

Always nice to see some quality eel content!