FreydisTit

FreydisTit t1_itwpzpw wrote

According to this rebuttal of the study, only 12.7% of the participants tested for vitamin D levels prior to the study (61%) were baseline deficient in Vitamin D. So 39% of participants weren't tested for baseline levels of vitamin D. Also, they did not account for body weight, other Vitamin D supplementation, sunlight exposure, or clothing coverage.

I think the Vital study was examining vitamin D supplementation in general. Not a great design.

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FreydisTit t1_itwn2fv wrote

I agree there is more to know, and before I was diagnosed with a vitamin D deficiency, I went to my ophthalmologist for a peripheral vision test because I was having the issues you are describing.

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FreydisTit t1_itwmnir wrote

I feel you. I was taught from a young age to stay out of the sun as much as possible and wear sunscreen at all times to prevent aging, and sure enough I was diagnosed with a severe vitamin D deficiency. Now I go outside during peak sun and expose my back (largest surface) for about 10 minutes. I also take D3 supplements, which is a better version for those of us who don't like sun.

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FreydisTit t1_itwlng4 wrote

I was told to stand in noon-1pm full sun with my back exposed for half the time it took my skin to turn pink, which is like 10 minutes. Darker skin would require longer sun exposure.

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FreydisTit t1_itwl70j wrote

My gastro didn't inform me that the medication he prescribed for GERD would inhibit vitamin D absorption in the gut, and he was my gastro for almost 20 years. I wasn't screened for vit d deficiency until I was 40, and my NP caught the deficiency. I should have been screened much sooner.

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FreydisTit t1_itwkf3d wrote

Take a D3 supplement daily. I usually take mine in a hair, skin, and nails vitamin. I couldn't shake my deficiency on prescription D2, but was able to with daily D3.

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FreydisTit t1_itwk8nk wrote

Make sure it's D3. I had a vitamin D deficiency really bad and was prescribed D2, which still required sun. I didn't start feeling better until taking a daily D3 for a few months.

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FreydisTit t1_itwh2by wrote

Just to add, the mesolithic hunter gatherers of Scandinavia and Europe had dark skin for around 40k years or more after their migration out of Africa. There wasn't a need for them to adapt their melanin to colder climates because they ate a diet rich in vitamin D3, creating a shortcut that doesn't require sun exposure. They consumed fish, the livers of large mammals, and mushrooms. They were also lactose intolerant like their African ancestors. They did have the mutations for light eyes.

It wasn't until migrations to the area during the neolithic period that farming was introduced to this area, and hunter gatherers lived with farming societies for a thousand years or so before the complete adoption of agriculture. These migrations, along with climate change, the loss of hunter gatherer diet, genetic mutations for lactose tolerance, mutations regarding immunity, and sexual selection, led to lighter skin, which just happened in the last 4k years or so. Archeological evidence coupled with DNA show that vitamin D deficiency did become a problem during this transition.

I'm glad you brought up vitamin D deficiency, because it is really a problem, especially for those with darker skin near the equator. They have fewer natural sources of D3, and some cultural and religious practices in these areas lead to women, who need Vitamin D the most for bone health because of estrogen, to suffer from vitamin D deficiency in the highest numbers. The children in these areas are disproportionately affected as well.

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