It's more due to al-31 wouldn't even fit inside tejas

And u still didn't know this, demn that's embarassing

GTRE is responsible for Kaveri not HAL, kaveri was originally made for LCA Tejas but to to delay ti was split for tejas program

You have been following this for decades but still didn't knew al-31 couldn't be fit into tejas?

Al-31 is not a efficient or long lasting engine as it's based of Russia design and that's why it isn't used in anything but su-30mki.

Also al-31 can't fit in tejas or tejas mk2 as it's crazy big and modifing the to get al-31 engine would be same as making a new jet from scratch

Also the ip right to al-31 are still with russia and we can't copy or modify it without their permission

India needs a 130kn class engine which which is going to be declared in partnership with uk or france and will be used on amca.

I suggest u stop talking if u don't know full facts. U are making yourself look dumb

>If it has then ask yourself why are we importing engines for LCA?

Al-31 would be overkill for Tejas

Hal has been making al-31 engine from scratch for quiet a while

India has been making engine for su-30mki and Mirage 2000 for quiet a while. If copying it would be possible it would have been done

Ghatak stealth UCAV

Kaberi recently completed its test in russia with sucessful core

>There is no such thing as a next gen engine.

The , next gen jet engine have stealth feature and also engine with adaptive cycle are under development.

>Also 5th or 6th gen planes...claimed ones? developed ones? claimed to be developed ones? If we are talking about the latter then shooot we have many of those, even former Yugoslavia claimed to have developed a stealth fighter.

I am talking about jet engine not planes

>Calling out certain brands also makes little sense since most NATO members and NATO alies are codeveloping engines now a days. EJ200 was British/German/Italian/Spanish companies co-developing it. F136 upgrade to P-W F135 was a G-E/Rolls Royce co-development.

Most of the development was still done my one of 2 Major countries so it does makes sense

>No idea where China stole it's designs, but they did upgrade them past what they were.

Chinese engine are very similar to Russian ones and they also took the same approach of upscaling engine like Russian which caused it to be very inefficient

>The indian engine has been in a test/research stage for ages and will continue to be in a test research/stage for at least a decade or two.

No, it just completed its test with new core recently in russia and it's dry variant will be uses in the Ghatak UCAV by 2024-2026

And if u just count making engine , then india has been making engine for su-30mki and Mirage 2000 from scratch for quiet a while

Also india is working in co-development with saffran or Rolls-Royce to develop a new 140kn engine

Out of the 7 nation only 2 can make engine for next gen Planes.

Russian/chineese jets are very inefficient, have low lifespan and suffer for improper combustion.

French have made good engine but they still not capable of producing 5th gen jets

UK,USA can make good engine due to rolls Royce and P&W

There aren't any other countries capable of making good jet engine

>India is in neither of those groups

I never said india was capable of producing 5th gen jet engine. But india has made its own jet engine which is the Kaveri engine

https://youtu.be/ittfy-LcFvU

>Again, the US made the first stealth aircraft. No one made a stealth aircraft before the US. That's not my opinion. It's a fact. Deal with it.

Brits made the first train so are all trains made after it copy?

Nazi made the first jet engine so are all jet engine made after it a copy of it?

>Pyotr Ufimtsev wrote papers on the concept of stealth that were translated to English in the 60s and helped the US develop the first stealth aircraft. He never built one himself.

Still dosent change the fact that us stole his work to develop stealth which would have been possible without his papers

>. The US produced the first stealth aircraft in world history and everyone else has been copying the US ever since. Facts. Deal with it hater lol

Lol u are dumb and pointing out false facts dosent make u h hater. Just because us did it first dosent mean everyone copied it.

What's next every car in the world is copy of German cars as they made it first?

Nazi made the first space rocket so do all space rocket made afterwards are copy of it? (In case of usa it might be)

India made the world's first missile so does that mean all missile made afterwards are copy of it?

Just because u made something from stolen research first dosent mean everyone copied it from u. But i dought u will able understand it

Stop reading propoganda fake news

The first concept of stealth was developed by Soviet scientist Pyotr Ufimtsev. USA stole his work to to develop f-117.

Horten Ho 229 flying wing fighter-bomber, developed in Nazi Germany during the last years of World War II proved to have some stealth characteristics due to its lack of vertical surfaces (key characteristic of all stealth aircraft plus inherent feature of all flying wing aircraft like the Ho 229). Testing performed in 2008 by the Northrop-Grumman Corporation established that the aircraft's shape would have rendered the Ho 229 virtually invisible to the top-end HF-band, 20–30 MHz primary signals of Britain's Chain Home early warning radar, provided the aircraft was traveling at high speed (approximately 550 mph (890 km/h)) at extremely low altitude – 50–100 feet (15–30 m). Despite that, the Ho 229 was never intended to be a stealth aircraft.

Also by definition this would be first stealth aircraft and not American f-117

And the soviets start making experimental stealth jets in 1980s but couldn't continue a lot due to bad economy at that time and later their economy soon collapsed

The first concept of stealth was developed by Soviet and US stole it.

Just because us came up with h it first dosent mean it's everyone else copied from them.

All commercial airlines look the same but with a few changed but it doesn't mean that everyone else copied from the first commercial plane.

Same goes with why most f-1 crs look th same

It's call converged evolution , it's also found in nature.

When given same set problems people tend to arrive at similar solution.

They develop few designs by themselves (u can look at their older designs , they were mix of different designs)

Literally only 2 country are capable to producing next gen engine.

The company making this studies 7 different 5gen aircraft design and found out this was the best