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ExtraFun4319 t1_je2nmcu wrote
>There is some serious cope going on in programming subs
There's cope going on this sub, too. "AGI 2023!" is clearly cope to me, cope that comes from people who desperately want AI to rescue them ASAP.
And the fact that no serious AI scientist (or any AI scientist) believes such a thing (AFAIK) only bolsters my view.
ExtraFun4319 t1_jclafdx wrote
Reply to comment by sideways in Offbeat A.I. Utopian / Doomsday Scenarios by gaudiocomplex
I REALLY hope you're wrong. What a terrifying future! And you will be, because in case you didn't know, not all people are selfish sociopaths and would actually care enough about their friends, partners, and families and humanity in general to spend time even in the face of advanced chatbots. Imagine thinking that couples are just gonna break up or divorce, or best friends are going to stop seeing each other.
And some of you guys LOOK forward to this?!?!?! How lonely and anti-social must one be to have no problem with this?
ExtraFun4319 t1_j9ijmok wrote
Reply to comment by CustardNearby in OpenAI has privately announced a new developer product called Foundry by flowday
As someone who actually works in a related field and is pretty familiar with the actual field of AI itself, and have met and know people with all sorts of work backgrounds which has given me insight about many work fields, I am extremely doubtful that ChatGPT (in any capacity) will result in major layoffs.
The technology just isn't there, and I don't see it getting there (to the level where it'd cause the economic damage you're describing) anytime soon.
ExtraFun4319 t1_j6k08au wrote
Reply to comment by GPT-5entient in ChatGPT creator Sam Altman visits Washington to meet lawmakers | In the meetings, Altman told policymakers that OpenAI is on the path to creating “artificial general intelligence,” by Buck-Nasty
Great minds think alike lol
ExtraFun4319 t1_j6jk3xf wrote
Reply to comment by imlaggingsobad in A McDonald’s location has opened in White Settlement, TX, that is almost entirely automated. Since it opened in December 2022, public opinion is mixed. Many are excited but many others are concerned about the impact this could have on millions of low-wage service workers. by Callitaloss
This restaurant isn't even close to being fully automated yet, so deriving that conclusion from this post strikes me as a bit odd.
I think those numbers might rise in the next few years (think somewhat less than Covid numbers at most), but I'm highly skeptical there'll be this unemployment crisis that you're describing at some point this decade.
AI and robotics has indeed made significant amounts of progress over the past few years (especially AI) the technology today is still nowhere near capable of performing the entirety of a large chunk of the workforce's jobs; fully replacing an employee's complete set of tasks is a much higher bar than merely augmenting the employee. And even the augmentation era has yet to fully get underway (although we're obviously seeing early signs of that with ChatGPT and the like).
And that's not even taking into consideration that mass adoption of new technology takes a good while and in many cases has to go through legal hurdles before being adopted at all.
ExtraFun4319 t1_j6ex9nu wrote
Reply to ChatGPT creator Sam Altman visits Washington to meet lawmakers | In the meetings, Altman told policymakers that OpenAI is on the path to creating “artificial general intelligence,” by Buck-Nasty
>In the meetings, Altman told policymakers that OpenAI is on the path to creating “artificial general intelligence,”
If they get there, it won't be as a private company.
Why do I think this? Personally, I believe it's painfully obvious that once private AI organizations come anywhere near something resembling AGI, they'll get taken over/nationalized by their respective national governments/armed forces. OpenAI won't be an exception.
There is absolutely no reason why the US government/military would just sit there and watch a tiny group of private citizens create something that dwarves the power of nuclear weapons.
And no, I doubt the average US senator is up to date with what is happening in AI, but I'm almost positive that there are people in the government/military who are keeping a close eye on progress in this field, and I have no doubt that the gov/military will pounce when the time is right (assuming that time ever arrives).
Ballsy of Altman to tell lawmakers to their faces that they're on the path to creating something that would potentially eclipse their own power. But like I said, I highly, highly doubt that that will ever be the case.
ExtraFun4319 t1_iv62jdq wrote
Reply to comment by ginger_gcups in Is Twitter Secretly "Going AI"? by MythOfMyself
>He's drunk his own Kool Aid.
So the con man conned himself?
ExtraFun4319 t1_iuzmqfa wrote
Reply to comment by dakpanWTS in What would the "elite" be doing if they thought AGI was about to happen? by sideways
I assume there's people in gov who keep up with tech progress (military leaders, DARPA scientists, etc.) so they would have a good idea of when the time for nationalization/confiscation would be right and relay this belief to the lawmakers/head of state so that they could take action.
In any case, I expect politicians to raise their interest in AI as the technology advances, and future senators may not even need a heads up to introduce legislation to make AI-researching companies state owned.
ExtraFun4319 t1_iuzj858 wrote
I strongly believe that if world governments suspected that private organizations within their jurisdiction were close to solving AGI they'd either nationalize them or confiscate their technology/algorithms, etc.
There is NO WAY any government would just stay idle and allow a private company to develop a technology much more powerful than nukes. That's why I find it funny when I see people say that Google or Meta or some other company will be the first to achieve AGI. Maybe they will, but as a state-owned enterprise under the control of their government, not under the control of their CEO's/boards.
ExtraFun4319 t1_iustvpq wrote
Reply to comment by Sashinii in Robots That Write Their Own Code by kegzilla
>so basic income has to be implemented as soon as possible.
And if all jobs don't become obsolete this decade (which is an extreme take)?
Though I will admit that UBI should be a thing regardless of how many people are employed. Nobody should have to work to survive.
ExtraFun4319 t1_iujlz0m wrote
Reply to comment by Ezekiel_W in Giant farming robot uses 3D vision and robotic arms to harvest ripe strawberries by Anen-o-me
Do you mind providing me a few links to sources that you've found while doing research that support your guesstimation, if you can and don't mind?
And why do you prefer the u-6 numbers, if you don't mind me asking?
ExtraFun4319 t1_iuj390m wrote
Reply to comment by Ezekiel_W in Giant farming robot uses 3D vision and robotic arms to harvest ripe strawberries by Anen-o-me
That is one hell of an extreme position to take, considering that the US unemployment rate today is 3.5% and while technology has made significant amounts of progress the past few years, especially in AI, technology today is still nowhere near capable of performing the entirety of a large chunk of the workforce's jobs and thus creating the need for UBI; fully replacing an employee's complete set of tasks is a much higher bar than merely augmenting the employee.
And that's not even taking into consideration that mass adoption of new technology takes a good while and in many cases has to go through legal hurdles before being adopted at all.
ExtraFun4319 t1_itov38v wrote
Reply to comment by Sashinii in When do you predict America will implement UBI? by fignewtgingrich
>this decade
You told me a few weeks ago that you believe full automation would take place in the 2030s. You changed your mind in that time span?
ExtraFun4319 t1_itflez6 wrote
Reply to comment by GeneralZain in Given the exponential rate of improvement to prompt based image/video generation, in how many years do you think we'll see entire movies generated from a prompt? by yea_okay_dude
>doesn't make me less wrong tho ;)
Your prediction may indeed turn out to be right, but the fact that you prematurely declared it as ALREADY correct reeks of hubris.
ExtraFun4319 t1_je34d0w wrote
Reply to comment by Loud_Clerk_9399 in What advice are you giving to family and friends? by TikkunCreation
>All of your hard work in life was for nothing.
This is so fucking negative. We're all gonna die one day, so should we all just abandon our endeavors because of that?