This article is newer than that one, they've apparently consolidated processing locations to be more local - a good idea to limit liability/spread.

Nobody bitching here actually has any solutions or answers, just malding that nothing being planned or done is "good enough."

Reading is a better option than raving.

Ffs the level of afactual hysterical shit talking in this thread is Norfolk Southern levels of toxic. Seriously people throwing fits that contamination is being taken to a nearby incinerator? How tf is this """supposed to be''" cleaned up, yea experts on pollution remediation for the week? Just get the USS Enterprise to tractor beam the whole county up into space and throw it in the sun?

This is actually orders of magnitude too small to be a superfund - if the factory making these chemicals blew up, that's a superfund. Cleaning up a chemical spill by moving contaminated materials to the nearest qualifying incinerator is really the way it's done. A lazy uncontrolled burn poisoning the region was a disgusting action tho .

I'd personally like to see some details on this dump well - I'm a bit dubious about that prospect, but reading is a better option than raving.

Yeah I they should just excise the entire county from the crust of the Earth, tractor beam it into space, and just throw it into the sun - it's so easy!

60% of the time, guerilla marketing works every time.

No it's geography built on biology built on chemistry built on physics and understanding at all the levels is important, what with the drastic ramifications to the entire geosphere.

The physical basis isn't secondary in any way tho, and it of course isn't solely the concern of geography.

That's a bizarrely obtuse classification you're using, human action is compounding the physical basis of the concept, so the physics don't matter? Saying "people does it," is meaningless without being able to explain how.

Climate change should feature pretty prominently in physics, chem, bio, as well as geography; all branches are effected/contributory.

Actually it's electromagnetic physics intersecting with molecular structures. Everything else is accessory after the fact, but not enough focus is given to the physical facts that are the basis of the idea.

Can you actually describe what happens -- CO2 goes into the atmosphere, and then what? How does it make things warmer?

Bulk lube and pine cones

That's literally nothing to do with what they said. They said ev bad because they create pollution to make, they literally never mentioned useable lifetime emissions. Quit moving goalposts from an alt account.

This is also a fundamentally stupid thing for you to say, as green energy is rapidly growing in the international production portfolio, and will continue to do so -- we need to be making the transition to green grid and EV in tandem to start reaping benefits on both ends asap

>There's no point in building EVs if there's still carbon in the grid

>> There's no point in going green grid while there's all these carbon cars

>>>There's no point in anything, realityisntreal, whyevenbother.

Because if both cars have similar pollution to produce then the tonnes of CO2 emissions saved over their operational life means literally nothing, reality isn't real, bothsidesarethesame, whyevenbother....

And yet (trans/inter) continental transmission lines already exist.... Oh yeah and wind tidal geothermal and solar can all be implemented in the north east as well.

Humanity has predicted eclipses and global rotational variances (zodiac procession) since antiquity? Fundamental laws of physics don't change over time - results of their interactions are completely predictable.

Reading will benefit you and the rest of humanity more than praying ever will, do that instead.

Well there are these lines to transmit power that can be built - let's call them "transmission power lines." These "transmission power lines" can be used to move power from one part of the country to another, like how every city doesn't have it's own coal plant?

Also there's tidal, on/off shore wind, and geothermal that can be used and stored more locally, yes?

Logically strawmanning basic scientific literacy as Dunning Krueger r/iamverysmart so you can straight up Dunning Krueger r/iamverysmart at everyone in thread whilmst'd've contributing nothing - logically. Yep.

Plenty of car parks and roofs to put them on - but then the terrorists will just attack all the houses and parking lots in the country 🤔🤔🤔

No, because it doesn't take a genius to repeat answers that have been internationally known for decades. Carbon based global warming was being discussed in scientific papers during the Civil War, Ford had all electric vehicle prototypes in the 50s, Carter put solar on the White House in the 70s.

Did you think you were intelligently calling people out here, Mr.s Dunning Kruger?

You don't have any numbers showing a lower start up cost, but blindly assert it must be better, while "waiting for numbers", wherein numbers projected are worse for your case - yep.

"Using it with carbon capture" is less efficient than the system which does both since much of the power your saving is then earmarked for capture, not going back to the grid.

Try another analogy: peaker planets are incandescent bulbs, your compact florescence are better to be sure but led have no mercury and last longer and use less power still.

Why are you so defensive about finding out there are even better options available?

Their projected round trip efficiency is worse at the low end and break even at the high end. They share the same cheap industrial construction components.

Is just seems less valuable overall, especially as its not carbon negative. Like yeah hybrid cars help, but less valuable than full electric

Well that just sounds like a liquid air battery with more steps?

Liquid Air Batteries are by far the best possible solution I've seen, to support a full renewables grid and help sequester carbon.

• They can harness and store over-peak power for months for later discharge

• Can be constructed with standard piping and tanks already mass available

• Sellable liquid nitrogen and oxygen created as primary course of function

• Purifies air of other pollutants as a primary course of function

- Isolates atmospheric CO2 as a primary course of function, path to long-term sequestration.

The first two grid scale plants are going online within the next two years.

This isn't carbon negative and requires a lot of additional infrastructure to manage the CO2, which will surely leak to some extent. It seems roundly inferior overall.

This is the thing -modular/prefab construction will almost always be more cost effective than this. Maybe when humanity gets to the point of building moon bases with lunar ice and substrate a system like this will be practical, but on earth a prefab house frame on a flat truck is going to be cheaper.