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DataGOGO t1_j813dui wrote
It is legal until a court says otherwise.
DataGOGO t1_iyda1r9 wrote
Reply to comment by Glad-Driver-24 in Social media firms face big UK fines if they fail to stop sexist and racist content by diacewrb
Aww... yep, CNN has a UK office, my bad.
DataGOGO t1_iyd9wui wrote
Reply to comment by masterblaster0 in Social media firms face big UK fines if they fail to stop sexist and racist content by diacewrb
Incorrect.
A US based business, with no operations in the UK or EU, can serve whatever content they want, to anyone in any county and they do not have to follow the EU laws, and the EU has no authority or power to fine them. Period. They can call it a media import if they want, and the US based company can tell them to fuck off.
If they chose to follow GDPR I 100% guarantee it is because they have operations, there.
They can ban them if they censor the internet, then could in theory block direct payments to them, but they can't fine them.
The UK and EU have zero authority over any business that does not directly operate on thier shores. Period
DataGOGO t1_iyd8sv2 wrote
Reply to comment by youmu123 in Social media firms face big UK fines if they fail to stop sexist and racist content by diacewrb
>How can the UK/EU prevent ordinary individuals and businesses from sending money to Twitter? The answer: the exact same way the West stops individuals and businesses from sending money to Iran or Al-Qaeda.
No one said they couldn't stop people from making payments, only that a US company receiving payments from the EU/UK does not mean they are required to follow UK/EU laws.
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>It does have everything to do with the company that does not operate. That company loses revenue. It's the same way sanctions work.
That is between them and thier citizens. All I said is that if there are no operations in the UK; they are under no obligation to follow the UK's laws. Which is 100% correct.
DataGOGO t1_iyd885i wrote
Reply to comment by Glad-Driver-24 in Social media firms face big UK fines if they fail to stop sexist and racist content by diacewrb
>Tell me genius, how are you supposed to target UK/EU users with relevant ads without explicitly being in the UK/EU?
Easy. The source IP address, which is present in every request, reveals the source geo (unless using a VPN). So the site can present to you UK/EU specific ads.
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>Do you honestly think that you, as a company, are going to be able to collect data from users in the UK/EU and not have any kind of repercussions?
Yes, because that is exactly how it works today.
DataGOGO t1_iyd7u7i wrote
Reply to comment by Glad-Driver-24 in Social media firms face big UK fines if they fail to stop sexist and racist content by diacewrb
> which is incorrect.
It isn't.
> but if you have UK/EU ads it means you're targeting users from those territories and could get fined.
Incorrect.
DataGOGO t1_iyarqx0 wrote
Reply to comment by Glad-Driver-24 in Social media firms face big UK fines if they fail to stop sexist and racist content by diacewrb
Yes, happens all the time. Goto websites not on in UK/EU , pick one, Doesn’t matter which, do you see ads and banners?
Do you honestly think seeing ads or earning money of foreign users is all that is required to be subject to local laws?
Let’s try a simple one. Goto cnn.com
Do you see ads? Do you think that means CNN has to follow uk/eu laws? Obviously not.
Serving content, presenting ads, and earning revenue is not what determines if a forgien company has to follow local laws. They have to operate in the country; have an office, have employees, have a formed business entity in those countries.
If they don’t, they don’t have to care.
DataGOGO t1_iyacajr wrote
Reply to comment by Glad-Driver-24 in Social media firms face big UK fines if they fail to stop sexist and racist content by diacewrb
Being serious.
>To profit in the UK/EU (which Twitter does)
If UK companies make payments to a company in the US, that does not make the company beholden to UK/EU rules.
>you need to be registered there and follow their rules.
No, they don't. They can literally completely ignore them.
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>They're not going to let you serve UK/EU users and have no control over that.
If they want to block thier citizen's access to the internet, that is between them and thier citizens; it has nothing to do with the company that does not operate in the EU/UK.
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> Welcome to the 21st century
yes, where global routing is a thing, and no one gives a fuck about the EU.
DataGOGO t1_iy9rlrc wrote
Reply to comment by masterblaster0 in Social media firms face big UK fines if they fail to stop sexist and racist content by diacewrb
Define "Operate"?
If they have no offices and no employee in the UK, are they "operating" within the UK?
DataGOGO t1_iy8z72w wrote
Reply to comment by memberjan6 in Social media firms face big UK fines if they fail to stop sexist and racist content by diacewrb
The UK has no authority to sensor a post on a US based platform. Social media platforms can literally tell the UK to fuck off, and the UK is powerless to do anything about it.
DataGOGO t1_iy8yw0j wrote
Reply to comment by typing in Social media firms face big UK fines if they fail to stop sexist and racist content by diacewrb
The UK and EU do not have free speech (Literally).
DataGOGO t1_iy8yqnv wrote
Reply to Social media firms face big UK fines if they fail to stop sexist and racist content by diacewrb
This is easy to avoid.
1.) Withdraw all servers out of the UK/EU and close any physical offices. It's the internet, everything will still work; There are plenty of place to host in those GEO's that are not part of the UK/EU.
2.) Tell the UK/EU to fuck off. They can't regulate or fine companies that do not operate within thier borders.
3.) Laugh at the UK & EU thinking they have any control at all over the internet and foreign corporations.
DataGOGO t1_j81fm63 wrote
Reply to comment by Tlaloc-Es in [D] Is it legal to use images or videos with copyright to train a model? by Tlaloc-Es
not likely, if found illegal, then you would have to "remove" the offending "images"