CleaverIam
CleaverIam OP t1_isa2ahc wrote
Reply to comment by TFenrir in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
By plateau I don't mean an inability to make advancements. I mean advancements at a much lower rate them we got used to
CleaverIam OP t1_irw2od9 wrote
Reply to comment by Wassux in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
They don't count because we had them long ago and they are not general purpose. If I am wrong about that then please tell me.
CleaverIam OP t1_irw2hw2 wrote
Reply to comment by DrinkDazzling8030 in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
Where are Boston dynamics robots commercially used?
The protein thing is interesting. It has been mentioned a couple of times and it seems useful.
I mentioned quicker DNA sequencing and I believe it is indeed BIG.
Faster net? Does this increase in speed actually allow qualative changes to the way we use the internet or is is just a minor improvement on an existing technology?
Better apps? I wouldn't really count it as a breakthrough. More like streamlining what we had already.
I forgot about smartwatches and earbuds. Perhaps because I don't use either. Probably a good point though.
CleaverIam OP t1_irw1s8e wrote
Reply to comment by Wassux in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
Production lines are great but they have been here for years. And they are not androids. Android is by definition a human-like robot. I am not pessimistic. I am simply not seeing the rate of progress we had in the 20th century. I think that all the low hanging fruits are plucked and now we will experience a much slower rate of change. Elon Musk is a vaperware salesman. Most of his ideas are idiotic. The hyperloop, passenger ICBM, the tunnel, the dancing android costume. "Yes waymo has 0 human input, no driver whatsoever. Google it." Interesting. Does it drive along normal highways together with ordinary traffic? If so then this is big.
CleaverIam OP t1_irv2w3g wrote
Reply to comment by beachmike in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
4k TV is not much more practical then normal tv. A slight improvement that changes nothing in practice. We had smartphone in 2009. I said they got significantly cheaper which IS a major improvement, but that has already happened by 2016. Smartphones haven't changed in a meaningful way since.
I am not familiar enough with AI. That does sound like a major improvement, I will give you that
CleaverIam OP t1_iruvwfr wrote
Reply to comment by AsuhoChinami in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
You seem to be one of those people yourself
CleaverIam OP t1_iruvjl9 wrote
Reply to comment by Ortus12 in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
I am not saying that we will not have another burst of exponential growth, or that we never had it. I am saying that consumer technology has improved little in the last decade or so. Much less than it had in the 60 and 70s. Right now, we don't have AGI, and all the things you listed are not happening right now.
CleaverIam OP t1_irsqlhp wrote
Reply to comment by TheHamsterSandwich in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
It sure will
CleaverIam OP t1_irspuiu wrote
Reply to comment by AsthmaBeyondBorders in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
What are you taking about?
CleaverIam OP t1_irspopk wrote
Reply to comment by TheHamsterSandwich in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
I like your optimism but I believe you are in for a shock. At best we might have something that vaguely resembles AGI very slowly running on the fastest supercomputer that would be specifically designed to run it. Not something a average person would have a use for.
CleaverIam OP t1_irsoycf wrote
Reply to comment by Grouchy_Band_3869 in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
So, where do I buy any of the things that didn't exist without these technologies?
CleaverIam OP t1_irsoqus wrote
Reply to comment by AsuhoChinami in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
Care to enlighten me?
CleaverIam OP t1_irsonbd wrote
Reply to comment by AsthmaBeyondBorders in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
A minor improvement on an existing technology but nothing revolutionary yet. Slightly better graphics aren't going to change my life in the slightest.
>If you call AlphaFold not revolutionary you don't understand what it means
I have not heard of this one. This one might actually be useful. But as an end user, I need the drugs, not the tools that make them. If it actually helps create new drugs then those drugs would be a big thing.
CleaverIam OP t1_irso27b wrote
Reply to comment by TheHamsterSandwich in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
I am not sure who that is but I will surely come back to this in 7 years and I am sure we will not see it. Meanwhile, while we are waiting, we are technically "stagnating". Waiting for an advancement is not the same as seeing it come.
CleaverIam OP t1_irsmzmc wrote
Reply to comment by AsuhoChinami in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
What technology do I have access to that I didn't already have in 2010?
CleaverIam OP t1_irsmof0 wrote
Reply to comment by TheHamsterSandwich in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
I will. What do you expect to change in the next decade? Except for better AI I doubt we would get anything. And even then, we still wouldn't have self driving cars I bet.
CleaverIam OP t1_irsmixc wrote
Reply to comment by Ortus12 in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
Ok, AI has improved from useless to less useless. Is AI the only thing that has been developing in the last decade?
CleaverIam OP t1_irsmduh wrote
Reply to comment by Grouchy_Band_3869 in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
Prove me wrong
CleaverIam OP t1_irsmcuz wrote
Reply to comment by AsthmaBeyondBorders in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
Fine, AI is improving. I will grant you that. Nothing revolutionary in the last decade though
>Just this week AI was one the front cover of Nature for improving 10 to 20% processing speed of matrix multiplications (aka the building blocks of computer graphics, physics simulations and AI itself) which wasn't improved on for 50 years.
How would it effect the end user though? It might be a scientific breakthrough for all I know but there is nothing in it for me.
CleaverIam OP t1_irsm12d wrote
Reply to comment by beachmike in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
So what major technology has come to common use in the last decade?
CleaverIam OP t1_irslwg9 wrote
Reply to comment by Wassux in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
"Tech has not plateaud, unless you don't understand how tech works."
No-one needed to understand how tech worked to see that it hadn't plateaued in the 20th century. We went from a metal ball in space to men on the moon in just over a decade. Now we need esoteric knowledge to see how it works.
CleaverIam OP t1_irsllx0 wrote
Reply to comment by Wassux in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
>Nuclear fusion is here already. Spark will be done in 2025
So, is it here or will be done in 2025? And what do you mean by "done"? First plasma? That is not a practical application. It would be decades before it becomes commercially available. I doubt we would have a single real thermonuclear power plant operating in 2040.
>There's self driving cars are here
Self-driving car means you can sleep in the back seat while the car takes you to your destination. If it requires any driver's input during the ride it isn't a self driving car.
I don't take Elon Musk seriously do I am not commenting it.
>Android robots are amazing, have you seen boston dynamics?
Not outside youtube videos of them doing stunts I haven't. I haven't seen an android doing anything useful. I have never seen one used for anything other than as a gimick. Tell me this: where are they currently used commercially?
>Also quantum leap? So a leap so small you can't even see it with your microscope?
Yeah, very funny.
CleaverIam OP t1_irskhfk wrote
Reply to comment by TopicRepulsive7936 in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
I am an electrochemical engineer so I know something about tech. If you are so knowledgable, please, enlighten me. This is exactly why I came here.
CleaverIam OP t1_irska4k wrote
Reply to comment by chimgchomg in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
>You can certainly ask most smart devices for the fastest route from A to B and get it.
I certainly can but what if I want to ask it to move all my word documents that are currently in my Downloads and Documents folder into a new folder on my desktop that is called "Word" instead? That is a task a 7 year old could do. You certainly could program a computer to do it, but it has to be specifically programmed to do this task. For AI to be truly useful to the end user it should be able to perform any task you can ask it to do.
We had shuttles decades ago. Reusing a rocket is pointless in and of itself.
>Space tourism is slowly becoming
Slowly is the key word. By plateau I don't mean 0 rate of progress, I mean very slow rate of progress. We went from sending a satellite into space, to sending a dog into space to sending a human into space to going to the moon in just over a decade. We still don't have a moon base or have been to Mars, nor can we reasonably expect it to happen in the next couple of decades.
>Electric vehicles being a big and obvious one
No it isn't. It absolutely changes nothing about how a car works for the end user. I don't care if my car is powered by petrol, or batteries, or hydrogen or unicorn dust. All I care is how safe it is and how fast I can fuel my car. You may count it as a minor improvement on an already existing technology but it is not a game changer that would effect how we use cars.
CleaverIam OP t1_it2vhre wrote
Reply to comment by beachmike in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
I agree with your last sentence. But from my perspective, we are at an end of a fit with mo start on sight...