Butt_Bucket

Butt_Bucket t1_jbp61nt wrote

>Everyone who rents submits to a similar situation you describe, lol. Want to put up a painting on a wall? Needs owners permission. Want to remove a plant or add a new one to the garden? Needs owners permission. The only "ownership" that is allowed under land owners is that which they grant.
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>If that is some horrible dystopian nightmare, welcome to the modern world my friend

Renters don't own the land they live on, so they don't have ownership rights. I'm not sure why you think I'd have a problem with that. They do have occupancy rights and I think that's important too.

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>The difference between myself and those other land owners is that I don't believe any of us should be able to profit from people living on land.

Cool, but what you said was "owning land is an absurd concept that should be done away with". Profiting from land ownership is a step further, and being against that is a much less radical position that I probably would be more inclined to believe that you actually hold.

Do you actually want to abolish land ownership entirely or just renting land/property for money?

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Butt_Bucket t1_jbp1pzp wrote

"My entire garden"

"My yard"

While I'm glad to hear that you're a generous person, it seems as if you still have a pretty strong concept of what belongs to you. You still value being the person who gets to decide how your land is used and shared. You can own something and still be generous with it.

I don't believe for a second that you would be happy if you suddenly lost all protections of ownership associated with your land, and had to cede it completely to wider society without any individual authority over what becomes of it. I'm not creating a dramatic hypothetical here. This is the exact scenario you invoke when you say that owning land is an absurd concept that should be done away with.

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Butt_Bucket t1_jbox630 wrote

If it's such an absurd concept to you, then you don't have to own land. It's not compulsory.

>At best it's a method used by people in power to prevent others from extricating themselves from the said power. At best.

What about the countless millions of people who only own the land they live on? Do you believe they're oppressing everybody else by not sharing it?

If you really feel that strongly about it, I'm sure you must already live in a commune open to any destitute people who need a place. And if you don't, then maybe its time to start freely sharing your living space with strangers. Even better if you own land. Be the change you want to see in the world.

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Butt_Bucket t1_jbos8yz wrote

People did own things before capitalism came around. Hell, I would even go as far as to say that the entire concept of owning things created by other people massively predates capitalism too. Shit, its almost like your argument that "only capitalism lets non-contributors own the contributions of others" is completely wrong.

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