Yes like everyone says sheer fucking will.

Oh you're in for a treat. I highly highly recommend you watch chapter 4 in a theatre. It's made for the big screen. They've topped and set a new bar which will be very tough to beat and I'm not exaggerating. Go see it.

Agreed, hunt and bond are spies first so even current john would stomp them without breaking a sweat. And yes jason would be the toughest one but Wick is just one tough bastard. In his prime his speed and agility would be better than current and mind you he's alredy deadly enough even now, so prime john even in hand to hand combat combined with his training in various martial arts like jujutsu and judo would be very very hard to beat and if john has a gun then it's a game over no matter who's in front of him.

Yes exactly

Yep. Different opinions and thoughts give you a different perspective about the movie. It might not make you like a movie more or less but makes up for a interesting conversation

I think you might be onto something here. I kinda feel it too it's hard to explain.

Damn, why didn't they made a movie or two more, seems like it would've really helped by how you are describing, looks like they really wanted it to be a trilogy.

Yeah i do love sam, probably my favorite character out of the series

Very well written points. I'll remember them for a re watch

Lmao. Yeah pretty much my first time watching experience like you described.

You know what it's something i also felt watching the movies. He was loyal and ready to die for him multiple times. Almost drowned in the first movie, fought a giant ass spider and all the things you mentioned, but i also think that frodo was the ring bearer so like he was constantly being drained, weakened and tortured by the ring. Destroying him internally on the top of the journey so he also did some heavy lifting on his part.

The way i see it without each other they for sure would've died. If it was sam alone he would've been lost in the journey not trusting golem if it was frodo alone he probably would've died due to golem's manipulation. And i liked the Neville comparison but until 8th movie neville wasn't in the picture while Sam was constant.

Okay

I was just expressing my initial thoughts and feelings on my first watch and wanted to know other people's understanding of the movie. No need to attack with my reason being weird for not liking it. If you've nothing valuable to say then ignore the post

Hey i was just expressing my initial reaction and general feeling towards my first watch and wanted to understand why it's so great hence the post. The sauron thing was one of the complaints i was just feeling at the top of my head.

I agree technically the movie is amazing

Now that's a very good answer and the kind i was expecting to see. You share your thoughts and i can see what you are saying, a re-watch will definitely help in further things i missed in my first watch

Touched your nerve i suppose

Hmm i kind of disagree. I think 6th and 7th were pretty uneventful and dragging out of the series at least 6th had dumbledore's death. I loved 5th and 8th though. 8th one is just culmination of everything and a roller coaster ride. Right from the get go you're in it and it never slows down. I just love it so much.

I guess your last line could be one of the reasons why it didn't hit for me as it did for other people. I didn't grew up with it like HP but yeah i loved the costumes and background scores.

Yeah exactly. I personally like to keep movies and books separate, they're different mediums for me and i don't like to compare and it's not fair imo.

For HP one thing i noticed is that every movie had a arc or conclusion satisfactory for that particular movie while building the greater thread and I felt satisfied. For LOTR the ending of the first movie felt very abrupt not abrupt i would say but very episodic, i wasn't sure where the first movie or even in general where the franchise was heading.

That's actually a very great answer. Totally get what you are saying.

So you think it should've been a mini series or split into more movies to give more time to characters and story.

So it's like you need to read the books to fully understand why it's the greatest fanatsy franchise of all time.

I don't dislike it. I think it was very good. For example this can be a different one, i very much liked dark knight and had a discussion with my friend and he told me some of the things about joker and it's characteristics and you know the symbolism of two face and i didn't get all that myself and was pretty cool and now i like it even more, i was hoping to see something similar happen with this one

Kinda felt similar to what you experienced

I'm not sure what you mean by saying i ignore every post that brings up why they're good movies

Not gonna lie i did have a hard time completing this trilogy several moments where i just fell off and had to start again.