BearStorms
BearStorms t1_iw5ja2b wrote
Reply to comment by __chilldude22__ in Ai art is a mixed bag by Nintell
>How would no human artwork input work?
Just train on the good results of AI produced art.
BearStorms t1_iw5j1jt wrote
Reply to comment by Johnny_Glib in Ai art is a mixed bag by Nintell
Happened to accountants like a decade plus ago already.
BearStorms t1_ita0aj4 wrote
Reply to comment by AsthmaBeyondBorders in Thoughts on Job Loss Due to Automation by Redvolition
Also think about implications for authoritarian regimes - right now as a dictator you have to maintain a strong force that keeps the population at bay. Imagine that now you have automated police force, millions of small drones spying on you at all times and even intervening any time you are doing anything the regime doesn't like. That stuff is coming to China probably sooner that we would expect.
BearStorms t1_it9zqtb wrote
Reply to comment by AsthmaBeyondBorders in Thoughts on Job Loss Due to Automation by Redvolition
Well, who knows, I'm not saying this idea is completely fleshed out :)
There was this movie "Kingsman: The Secret Service" that had a similar plot where a wealthy megalomaniac and eco-terrorist wanting to deal with climate change by wiping out most of humanity. There was no AI or robots involved in the plot however.
Just a food for thought that the 0.01% elites will have no use for us plebs when everything is automated. We won't be useless, we will be less than useless - we will be literally a waste of space and oxygen.
BearStorms t1_it9ym9d wrote
Reply to comment by swazhr in Thoughts on Job Loss Due to Automation by Redvolition
There you go, beautiful art!
BearStorms t1_it9ykr1 wrote
Reply to comment by DrKrepz in Thoughts on Job Loss Due to Automation by Redvolition
You can absolutely create a program that generates infinite number of random pretty images, it is actually quite trivial to do. It's gotta exist somewhere, let's say a GPT-3 creates an interesting prompt and then Stable Diffusion generates the image. Anyone knows about something like this?
BearStorms t1_it9gzke wrote
Reply to comment by AsthmaBeyondBorders in Thoughts on Job Loss Due to Automation by Redvolition
They won't be of any use anymore as everything is done by robots so no employees necessary and they are now just taking up that one limited precious resource that has completely finite supply - space on this planet.
BearStorms t1_it9fuar wrote
Reply to comment by AsthmaBeyondBorders in Thoughts on Job Loss Due to Automation by Redvolition
Everyone won't be rich. Even if we have unlimited energy and can conjure anything out of rocks or garbage there will still be limited space on this planet.
BearStorms t1_it9dxcx wrote
Reply to comment by DrKrepz in Thoughts on Job Loss Due to Automation by Redvolition
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion, man. We can discuss endlessly about "what is art?". By some definition, maybe even the most mainstream one, AI (or computers in general) have been creating art for decades...
BearStorms t1_it982o2 wrote
Reply to comment by Effective-Dig8734 in Thoughts on Job Loss Due to Automation by Redvolition
Or an army of killer robots.
BearStorms t1_it97vps wrote
Reply to comment by OLSAU in Thoughts on Job Loss Due to Automation by Redvolition
This can get even darker; what are the billions of people on UBI good for when everything can be automated? They are just kind of in the way, useless masses just wasting space and breathing the air that should be reserved by the deserving elites that made this brave new world possible. Imagine a tech billionaire and his army of robots literally genociding most of humanity. You can even rationalize it as "saving the Earth and the environment". I mean I don't think this scenario is likely since hopefully most of the elites are not complete monsters, but it is thought that crossed my mind once or twice...
BearStorms t1_it972nj wrote
Reply to comment by Frumpagumpus in Thoughts on Job Loss Due to Automation by Redvolition
>i think there will be a fairly narrow window where programmers can make a ton of money though. but mostly the top 20% (we r kinda already in that window...)
Hope you are right, I mean we are already there. If you saying it is going to get even better that's a music to my ears!
BearStorms t1_it96x73 wrote
Reply to comment by Redvolition in Thoughts on Job Loss Due to Automation by Redvolition
I don't think this will be pretty, especially in the US. There is kind of animosity towards people on welfare, etc. as an ideological position and moving towards UBI or God forbid some kind of socialism will be a very hard thing to swallow for many people. Even though it will be absolutely necessary. American working class has a long tradition of voting against their own interests. The capital holding elites will weaponize this sentiment to fight the high level of taxation that will be surely coming as you pointed out. Europe will definitely have an advantage in this and the transition will be smoother.
BearStorms t1_it4m4wv wrote
Reply to comment by kmtrp in Since Humans Need Not Apply video there has not much been videos which supports CGP Grey's claim by RavenWolf1
Honestly, we'll see. The image generation is a problem where even a very imperfect result is perfectly acceptable. The coding is much harder problem, and then you have to remember all kinds of regulation, etc. But it's coming for everyone eventually. Ironically the physical blue collar trades working in a very heterogeneous environments like a plumber are probably the safest...
BearStorms t1_it4l57k wrote
Reply to comment by phriot in If you believe you can think exponentially, you might be wrong. Transformative AI is here, and it is going to radically change the world before the Singularity, and before AGI. by AdditionalPizza
>That said, I'm very confident that the shape of our lives will be very similar to today in 2025.
Agreed. Especially considering there will be massive backlash as AI starts eating jobs in the earnest. As we see from historical examples this was always a futile effort, but still it will slow it down a bit. But there may be governments and politicians trying to win easy points with the Luddites and do some kind of anti-AI legislation. If you are in a country like that - run. This has never worked and it will make your country economically irrelevant very quickly.
BearStorms t1_it4kigl wrote
Reply to If you believe you can think exponentially, you might be wrong. Transformative AI is here, and it is going to radically change the world before the Singularity, and before AGI. by AdditionalPizza
I agree, before the actual moment of Singularity the society will already be completely transformed. As we can see you don't need AGI for very useful work and uprooting of entire industries. The art revolution came out of left field for most people. I expect this to be a more and more common occurrence in the near future...
BearStorms t1_it0ar10 wrote
Reply to comment by kmtrp in Since Humans Need Not Apply video there has not much been videos which supports CGP Grey's claim by RavenWolf1
>this will augment productivity, it'll be a companion to all developers...
Well, it will, only now you will need 1 dev instead of 100. Ask illustrators in like a year or 2...
FML, I thought software development will be the last job to go...I may be sooo wrong (I'm a dev).
BearStorms t1_it0aiu2 wrote
Reply to comment by RavenWolf1 in Since Humans Need Not Apply video there has not much been videos which supports CGP Grey's claim by RavenWolf1
I think you are right and that makes it even scarier...
BearStorms t1_iszo61c wrote
Reply to comment by AsthmaBeyondBorders in Since Humans Need Not Apply video there has not much been videos which supports CGP Grey's claim by RavenWolf1
Agreed that reducing work hours should be the first solution. It is a travesty that the 40 hour work week didn't shrink in over 80 years.
I think some countries are going to implement 4 day work week, I think Iceland for example.
The US will need another FDR soon...
BearStorms t1_iszki5k wrote
Reply to comment by AsthmaBeyondBorders in Since Humans Need Not Apply video there has not much been videos which supports CGP Grey's claim by RavenWolf1
What do you propose?
BearStorms t1_iszgn9o wrote
Reply to comment by RavenWolf1 in Since Humans Need Not Apply video there has not much been videos which supports CGP Grey's claim by RavenWolf1
Yep, me too. It is obviously wrong argument anyways IF you believe singularity will happen at some point. With superintelligence on tap humans will be just bunch of moody toddlers in comparison. Why would you let us do anything at all?
BearStorms t1_is4c833 wrote
Reply to comment by PoliticsRealityTV in World’s fastest internet network has been upgraded to mind-boggling 46 Terabit/s by Shelfrock77
I made a typo, my ISP has 1.25 TB monthly limit, which sucks but it is good enough most of the time. I just reached it for the first time filling my new PS5 with games. Starlink seems like more expensive and worse option. However, I was always dreaming of maybe living in a big RV for some time (probably not happening now with family) or buying a house in the country somewhere in the middle of nowhere and Starlink would be a great option.
BearStorms t1_is3xvu6 wrote
Reply to comment by civilrunner in what jobs will we have post singularity? by theferalturtle
>Beyond that you need a swarm of autonomous heavy lift drones that can fill up and actually carry enough water which likely requires better batteries
Why not use hydrogen fuel cell or even gas powered drones for this?
BearStorms t1_is332cy wrote
Reply to comment by civilrunner in what jobs will we have post singularity? by theferalturtle
Beautiful vision of a possible future!
>That and we'll be able to rapidly respond to things like forest fires with automated response drones within minutes due to satellite monitoring to ensure they never get out of control and forests are maintained with less destructive methods thanks to automation.
I was thinking about this and there are no technical limitations on doing this today. Yes, it may need some investment, but seeing what a huge problem this has become in the Western US why is there not a lot more investment into much better wildfire management? It surely must cause damages in order of 10s or even 100s of billions of dollars every year, especially if you calculate all negative externalities like impact on health due to air quality, etc.
BearStorms t1_iw5jgpj wrote
Reply to comment by plywood747 in Ai art is a mixed bag by Nintell
Many artists are embracing this. Right now is the perfect time. Being a Luddite might give you some brownie points in the art community right now but it may cost you your career soon.