I've got gig speed and the longest I've ever had to wait was 15 minutes for really big games. Most are 5 to 10 minutes.

Make sure you're hardwired and that you're not playing other games while downloading.

AFAIK, there are only 2 games currently that can only be played on Series X/S/PC. Scorn and Flight Simulator. The Medium and Batman Gothic Knights are available PS5. Jedi Survivor will also be on PS5.

Starfield and Redfall will likely not be on last gen but neither of those have release dates. I think you have a good 6 months to a year to save up for a Series X (or PC) if these titles are important. That's assuming they don't get delayed. The longer you wait, the better.

PS5 will give you access to an entirely new library. Series X plays all the same games as your One X but with higher quality.

You're not getting any new games with Series X.

I have a high end gaming PC for modded single player games and PS5 for everything else. It's a great combo.

Like someone else mentioned, PC with game pass is great. There's really no reason to have an Xbox of you have a PC. The PS Plus subscription has as more games and the exclusives. Having both subscriptions is great.

I recommend you get a ps5 and then start saving for a PC. Once you get close enough, sell the Series X and get the PC.

Not at all as easy as consoles.

If you want better games, get the ps5. You have time to save up for a Series X before its next gen titles start dropping. Right now, all of their games are still playable on Xbox One. The only ones I'm aware of are Starfield, Elder Scrolls and something else. None have release dates yet, just 2023 release windows that could very well be pushed.

I'd usually say it depends on the games but the XBox One plays all the same games as Series X.

I'd say go with PS5 to expand your library now and then upgrade to Series X later to make your Xbox games look better

I use my PC like an Xbox and I have a PS5. My kids are grown and out of the house but I remember well waking up early on the weekends for some peace and quiet game time before the house wakes up.

You have to assess the libraries. For me, I want access to the most and best games. The PS5/PC combo gives that to me. Just researching the GOTY nominees over the past 12 years shows that Sony has 1-3 nominees (and often winners) every year. Microsoft studios are rarely ever nominated.

If getting a PC is not on your radar, then I'd keep the Series X and get a PS5. The PS5 PS Plus collection will give you about 17 bangers up front. The PS Plus Premium will get you about 800 games for $120 per year ($90 on holiday sale!). This includes almost all of the exclusives. The new games (like Ragnarok, for example) usually take about a year before they're added.

It couples well with Xbox Game Pass. I've probably played about 10 games on Game Pass this year. Mainly Halo, TMNT Shredders Revenge and a bunch of Indy titles. It costs more for less games but a lot of those games are day one releases. Unfortunately it costs more per year on Xbox ($180) than it does on PC ($120).

I don't like subscription services but 800 games for the cost of 2 and 450 games for the cost of 3 are both good deals.

I STRONGLY recommend getting the disk version of the ps5 (or any console, really). It will actually be cheaper than the digital version in the long run. Being at the mercy of waiting for a game to go on sale is no fun. Especially when the game is still more expensive than its physical version is year round. You can often find $5 - $10 copies of physical games that are $60 digitally. Just 2 of those will pay for your $100 disk drive. Borrowing/trading/selling used copies with friends/colleagues will save you tons over the console's life span.

Anyway, good luck with it.

I have a PS5 with PS Plus Premium and a gaming PC with Game Pass. Both played on my TV like consoles.

I have no need for any type of Xbox. I recommend you just get game pass PC. It's $60 cheaper than the Xbox Game Pass anyway.

But, if you want to try something new or have issues with your PC, the Series S is cheap enough to tide you over for a couple of years as long as you don't buy the memory expansion or too many digital games (specifically ones that would be significantly cheaper used).

If you just want a cheap Game Pass machine, you can find a used Xbox One for under $100 easy. The only games you'd miss out on would be Flight Simulator, Scorn (a walking simulator) and Gotham Knitghts (which you could get on PS5). Every other game can be played on an Xbox One, albeit at lower quality.

As I think this through for you, there's no shortage of Series X or S. You can try out the Game Pass on your current PC for like $1 I think. If you don't like it, you can cancel. There are no release dates for games like Starfield or Elder Scrolls 6 that will (presumably) be your 1st true current gen Xbox games. If you like the Game Pass on your current PC, you can wait until these games (or any other games you are interested in) have firm release dates. By then, you might be closer to getting your gaming rig or even picking up a cheaper Series X/S. The prices of these consoles will either stay the same or go down.

No problem.

Hard to find a straight answer on this but I don't think it's all. It's a lot and it might even be most.

Haven't read through it all but this appears to be one of the better summaries I've found.

https://www.eurogamer.net/xbox-backwards-compatibility-list-xbox-360-games-series-x-6400

PS3 because it's the only way to play PS3 games without streaming them. Many Xbox 360 games are backwards compatible on the Xbox One or Series X.

Damn. That sounds like a nightmare.

Exactly. The Series S is a trap for all but the most casual gamers. As soon as you get frustrated with the small storage and by the upgrade, you've almost paid for a PS4 or Series X. Not to mention the savings from physical discs.

The one time I saw it make sense was when my buddy got one for his daughter's college dorm room. She is a super casual gamer without much time for it.

It's a pretty cool little system for what it can dobut it's just very niche.

No. Get the system you want or regret it. As soon as you upgrade the Series S memory or buy a few $60 digital games that are available on disc for $5, you've paid more for the Series X or PS5 Disc version.

I was just giving you friendly advice. I didn't share my opinion on the matter with you in any way.

The only reasons I can think to chose xbox over PS is because you are already heavily invested in Xbox and you don't have a PC. The backwards compatibility is really cool (even though it doesn't cover work with nearly as many games is they make it out to be). Game Pass is also a great service but PS Plus Premium has 300 more games and costs $60 less.

I used to buy both consoles but, with how expensive this console generation will be over the next 7 years, I ended up getting a PC. I've since also picked up a PS5.

The PC with game pass covers anything that's not available on PS plus, it has all of the PC games/mods, allows me to stream/make videos and even has some household utility. PC game pass is also cheaper than Xbox game pass. Point being, I don't see a reason for an Xbox. My Xbox One hasn't been powered up since I got the PC.

Another thing NOBODY mentions is that Xbox Series X/S has no current-gen only games. Aside from 3 games, every single game available on Series X is also playable on the Xbox One. These systems have been out for 2 years. On the other side of that, PS5's 20+ current gen exclusive titles are winning awards.

And finally, games. People complain about exclusivity but it works to create better games. Sony's exclusive games are the best games on the market. They've developed relationships with their developers and it shows in the games they make. Whereas Microsoft just buys up devs and dissolves them when they spit out lifeless games that underperform financially. Just look at all of GOTY nominees over the past 10-12 years. 1-3 nominees are Sony games every single year. That's not even including the other sub categories. Microsoft games are rarely in the running for any awards outside of maybe Forza for the Sports category.

This guy didn't ask for your opinion. OP did. Why not share your opinion with the person who asked for it instead of trying start an argument with someone who didn't?

If money is tight, get an Xbox One for under $100 until you can afford to uograde your PC. It plays all of the same games (all but 3) as the Series X/S and is super cheap right now.

You're welcome. Happy to help. Have fun!

Xbox Series X/S only has 3 current gen exclusive games and one of those is available on PS5. You can play every game on an Xbox One.

Not trying to sway you one way or the other but to clear up the subscriptions, I have both Game Pass PC and PS Plus Premium. And a lot of people jump to the conclusion that Game Pass has more games when it doesn't necessarily.

You can get game pass for your laptop and it's $5 less per month than the Xbox version. It's $10 per month vs $15. $120 per year on PC or $180 per year on Xbox.

The PS Plus subscription actually has the same amount or more games than Game Pass for less money depending on which tier you get. PS Plus Extra is $100 per year and gives you the same 470ish games as XBOX game pass does for $180. It also includes many of the PS exclusives that are in running for GOTY every year. However, Game Pass has access to a lot of games that are relased on Day one. They aren't usually GOTY contenders or anything but there's value there for some people.

The PS Plus Premium tier adds another 300 games for a total of $120 per year. $60 less than Xbox game pass with 300 more games. It's about 800 games for the price of 2 per year. The caveat is that many (not all) of these games are ps3 games and they can't be downloaded to your drive so they have to be streamed. For some games, it makes them unplayable (input lag) but others it seems fine.

Another thing to consider is access to next gen games (current gen, really). One thing that no one seems to mention is that Xbox Series X/S only has 3 current gen exclusives. PS5 has about 7x that amount, many of which are award-winning. With the exception of Flight Simulator, Scorn (a walking Simulator) and Gotham Knights (also available on PS5), a last generation Xbox One will play all of the same games as Series X/S. You can get a used one for $100. Of course, everything will look and play much better on the Series X but the access to the games is still there.

For me, a Game Pass PC subscription and PS Plus Premium on a PS5 is perfect. I recommend the same for you. Maybe stick with PS Plus Extra but that $20 a year for another 300 games, even if some don't shine, is a good deal. Try the game pass on your current PC and then buy a PS5.

Xbox doesn't have any exclusives. You can play everything on your PC. They aren't expected to have any real heavy hitting, current gen games until next year. The only 2 that I can think of would be Starfield which has a release window of 2023 (my guess is 4th quarter if it doesn't get delayed to 2024) and Elder Scrolls which has no release window at all.

This should give you plenty of time to save up. Ideally to buy a better PC but a used Series X for $350 - $400 shouldn't be too hard to find a year from now.

It should rarely even get that high. As others have said, finish all of your downloads/transfers and see where it ends up. Then do the reset trick that someone else mentioned.

Most importantly, save all of your PS4 games to an external drive, preferably an SSD. Save the internal SSD for PS5 games. This will cut back on the "Other" storage big time and just free up your internal storage use overall. This will likely save you the expense of buying the extended internal storage, also.

No. The "Other" storage is in addition to the unseen 157.8 gbs. It varies considerably depending on how many games and/or videos you have on you drive. Mine is currently at 51, foe example.

I do both. Game Pass for my PC and PS Plus premium for my PS5.

I use the PS Plus Premium a lot more. If I had to chose 1, PS Plus Premium would be it. Game Pass has Day One releases, which is cool. But how many of them are GOTY contenders? Literally...Zero.

Every year Sony has 2 or 3 GOTY nominees. Those all come to PS Plus eventually.