AnAquaticOwl

AnAquaticOwl t1_j1prykw wrote

The other user mentioned humans. "For sound or "noise" to be "music" you need an artist (intention of stimulus)"

"there's nothing random about those sounds, though - they were clearly organized into appearing at a specific point, in a specific context."

Sort of. A construction site is indeed just random noise...but what if I individually recorded each machine - a jackhammer, an excavator, men yelling, a dude with a rivet gun - and assembled them myself into the sounds of a busy construction site? It's *exactly* the same as a random site you might pass on the street but now it was assembled with intention. Is one just random noise and one noise music?

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"The Nurse with Wound example is interesting, but it's literally noise organised in time..."

But it's mostly organized by sheer chance. Sure Steve is controlling the effects pedal to change the oscillations, but he's not creating the sound. Coil made heavy use of random, unpredictable glitches in their music too (they even had a word for it - Elph).

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Boyd Rice's last album was just four long, unchanging tones.

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AnAquaticOwl t1_j1odhfa wrote

That's an oversimplification. John Cage argued that music could be defined as sound organized in time, which would imply that someone was deliberately organizing it but what about naturally occurring music (birds for example)? Does it need to be organized deliberately by a human?

What about artists who record random sounds from the environment and use that as a composition? Cabaret Voltaire used to record the sounds of the construction site across the street from their studio, NWW's Soliliquy for Lilith is composed of a feedback glitch, and Einstuerzende Neubauten's Steh Auf Berlin begins with the sound of a jackhammer to give a few examples.

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AnAquaticOwl t1_iyyz2r8 wrote

Reply to comment by Suyefuji in Wake up, people by h4clovecory

I frequently dream about being in college and unable to find my math class so I never go and then stress out when it's the end of the semester and I've never been to a single class, and also I can never figure out how to do my English homework so I don't do it either

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AnAquaticOwl t1_iywhyvu wrote

Last night I slept for about 16 hours, during which I was in and out of a dream wherein a guy I knew stole my stone duck and I had to pursue him from New York to Boston before he boarded a train to Yuma, Arizona and disappeared forever. It was exactly as stressful as it sounds.

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