goldfishpaws t1_j62vor7 wrote
Stonehenge and the pyramids, for context, are about 5000 years old.
butterfingernails t1_j6435az wrote
Modern Egypt is 5000 years old, they just moved into the pyramids then.
goldfishpaws t1_j64c7bx wrote
Experts suggest a long span around ~3000 years BC (sources, PBS, Wikipedia) but nobody knows for sure. Do you have anything to suggest they're older?
butterfingernails t1_j64d0d9 wrote
Tons of podcasts and stuff from alternative history guys like Graham Hancock or Ben Van Kerkwyk. Of course nothing they've put out has been accepted as fact, it makes more sense that the Egyptians moved into a previous civilisations society, because the oldest pyramids in Egypt are the best built, and as they get younger, the quality and craftsmanship disappears. The last pyramids built in Egypt are sloppy mud bricks, while the oldest have precision cut blocks of quartz.
AlphaLo t1_j65x02c wrote
The Graham Hancock who has never published a scientific article in his life? Get out of there with this pseudo-science bullshit.
goldfishpaws t1_j64fghr wrote
I'm sure there were people in Egypt >5k years ago, just there's no accepted evidence/reason to believe the pyramids themselves are older! Same with Stonehenge.
butterfingernails t1_j64gjmb wrote
There's tons of evidence, but you're right, it's not accepted.
caramio621 t1_j67y5v4 wrote
Bruh evidence like what
boredguy3 t1_j64cov6 wrote
You mean, they utilized the pyramids and surrounding area for prestige, right?
butterfingernails t1_j64dlym wrote
No, I mean like all the greatest works of construction in Egypt, were there before the people we consider to be the builders moved in. The pyramids are way older than egyptologists claim, but because they don't want to admit they moved into the area instead of building them. They can't explain how they built them, but they know they did it some how.
Siantlark t1_j65pcs5 wrote
Egyptologists have very good ideas of how the pyramids were built. Dressed stone, mostly ashlar, has been used to build monuments for millennia and we have murals and papyri documenting the transportation of limestone, granite, syenite etc. to construction sites. We have evidence of how they built the pyramids with cutting tools, bevels, drilling, sawing, and sanding, with harder stone being pounded or sawn into shape with abrasives. None of the pyramids are out of reach for ancient Egyptian/Kushite labor and technology, its just labor intensive and time consuming.
Bubbahard t1_j66mkg6 wrote
Also, most blocks on the pyramids we're built by mixing materials on site, pouring them into forms and stacking them next to each other. Geopolymers.
boredguy3 t1_j64e3of wrote
Yes, they moved in and claimed the massive works for prestige. To impress and wow everyone.
butterfingernails t1_j64e94p wrote
Oh yes! Haha sorry, didn't understand what you wrote the first time!
justtrashtalk t1_j65h63b wrote
The Ancient Egyptians pyramids might be even older.
nonamepows t1_j66v83y wrote
I heard 10500 years ago.
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