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tickleyourfanny t1_j6j6fqp wrote

>“What is the goal? Disintegration of Russia, change of the government? There is also talk of tearing Russia apart. This is mad,” he said.

I believe the goal is to get russia to stop invading ukraine and withdraw its troops. Sure the war would possibly be over sooner if no nations provided support. Just like if russia invaded Croatia, the war would be over pretty quick if no nations provided support for Croatia. The ultimate goal should be to remove billionaire dictators from ruling countries for personal profit.

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Yo-boy-Jimmy t1_j6jcmji wrote

The goal is quite simple: Stop Russia from invading sovereign states like Ukraine, Georgia, Chechnya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and many more.

We live in a time where invading each other is not needed- this war, along with admittedly many others from the West as well, isn’t necessary

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boester2000 t1_j6jebbs wrote

My brain cell just exploded

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Yo-boy-Jimmy t1_j6jg5df wrote

Sorry, what I’m trying to say Russia started an unprovoked war and the goal is to stop Russia

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talonredwing t1_j6kxu9e wrote

Not west. USA .

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tickleyourfanny t1_j6ltase wrote

so all the other countries that make up 'the west', and the conflicts they start or are involved in, don't matter? why is that exactly,i am ever so curious?

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MaybeACoder007 t1_j6lrb23 wrote

I mean… the west was perfectly fine with Serbia trying to take over Croatia in the 90s (in case you weren’t alive then) Just saying.

But in all realities when Russia finally does use Nukes because of what the West is doing (Ukraine wants to bomb Moscow and has advocated for a Nuclear strike on Moscow). They have also tried to escalate things by bombing Poland.

I love how some Americans are ignorant of the Cold War and just after. Let alone Ukraine and how they sided in WW2 and never seemed to change course after the Cold War.

I’m not saying they shouldn’t has some rights… but they didn’t want to join NATO decades ago. Now they want to start Nuclear War. I don’t know if I’m okay with sending plenty of weapons to a power that is actively advocating for Nuclear strikes on another country and were before the invasion.

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tickleyourfanny t1_j6ltjbe wrote

> (Ukraine wants to bomb Moscow and has advocated for a Nuclear strike on Moscow).

would that be the same ukraine that gave up nukes for regional security. The same one that gave up nukes so that countries including RUSSIA would guarantee its security?

where do you get your ideas from on why Russia would finally use nukes..All 'the wests' fault right comrade?

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Overall-Yellow-2938 t1_j6lweqk wrote

After Georgia, the stunt they pulled 2014, pretty open plans they had to take Moldova after their expected glorious win in Ukraine and near constand invoking of a great Russian Empire that includes a lot of countrys that simply dont want to be part of that shit show its clear they wont stopp If they dont fail hard in Ukraine now.

The only one that is constantly treathening with nukes is Moscow. And its ist very VERY important for the future safety of all to make clear nuklear weapons are not a Cheat to do win even If the only thing you can do otherwise is to throw bodys and rusty equipment. Every wannabe despot will get ideas.

The West is helping a Independent country defend itself from a agressor that does crimes again at humanity left and right.

The only reason it is sometimes seen as more safe if russia collapses into different countrys ist their constant propaganda about war with the west, "liberating" or bombing capital citys of Nato countrys and so one.

If you try to brainwash your people to see us as enemy dont be suprised If we lose patience and start to see you as a problem.

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Superdad2022 t1_j6j7xen wrote

As a Croatian, majority of us don't share his opinions. He is talking about how NATO will force Croatia to join war against Russia and how EU is forcing us to help Ukraine while forgetting that we are NATO and we are EU.

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Ceratisa t1_j6j3k1k wrote

Pro-Russian mouthpiece continues to be Pro-Russian. More at 11

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Moutch t1_j6j40j7 wrote

The fuck Croatia?

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MendelsonJoe t1_j6j34l3 wrote

Criticize, chastise, condemn, denounce, chide, castigated...

There are plenty of alternatives, could we stop using slam for a while and start talking like fucking adults?

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skydivingbear t1_j6j4tv6 wrote

You might be misunderstanding, the headline refers to the Croatian president having literally body slammed the arm shipments to Ukraine. Crazy world we live in

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HapticRecce t1_j6j5kqk wrote

Geopolitical Backwards Day celebrated early in the Balkans...

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Zona643 t1_j6j5bl5 wrote

I think nato and the EU need to take a closer look at the countries they have allowed to join .

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marcvsHR t1_j6jal5a wrote

Fuck this guy.

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ThatsNotMyDogma t1_j6j73r0 wrote

We'll remember that when Croatia gets annexed to the burgeoning Russian Federation.

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AmHoomon t1_j6jcr7g wrote

> We'll remember that when Croatia gets annexed to the burgeoning Russian Federation.

Yeah, that's a lot of NATO to get through first. And a host of NATO countries that putting it mildly the vast majority of the citizenry view Russia about equal to dog shit on their shoes.

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jfreer22 t1_j6je5wi wrote

So basically Croatia won’t be asking for help in the event of Russian aggression? Cool, got it.

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RipFlair t1_j6jjvqb wrote

This dude looks like an uncircumcised chode

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SEQLAR t1_j6kjq6x wrote

Russian puppet

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Motor_Bit_7678 t1_j6k376z wrote

Good when the war in Ukraine is finally ended and ruzzia paying for the reconstraction then Ukraine should ban Croatia from benifiting from any trade or work/service.

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Minttunator t1_j6k4hpy wrote

Well, at least he didn't BLAST them!

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MeNamIzGraephen t1_j6ko0js wrote

Glad he's only slammed them; he could've bashed or blasted them!

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Rubtabana t1_j6kpo44 wrote

But what does the mayor of Timbuktu have to say?

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Kewenfu t1_j6ksgy4 wrote

Can someone please shove a boot up his f***ing ass!!!

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Openblindz t1_j6kf1z9 wrote

Screw this Ray Liotta wanna be.. couldn’t even advance in the World Cup with home field advantage…

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orion455440 t1_j6kf49p wrote

What the hell is it with the word "slams" that makes media/ news agencies so wet in the underwear? They seem to love that word.

Croatia isn't slamming anyone, that shithole country cant even slam a god damn car door.

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Gammelpreiss t1_j6n6w7v wrote

..the moment after joining Schengen. Damn.

Hopefully not another Hungary/Poland in the making

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KD922016 t1_j6j7gfs wrote

Fwwappppaammmm! slam jam! Waka Waka wammm!

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Sufficient_Ad_2765 t1_j6ji9q1 wrote

The goal has absolutely nothing to do with tearing Russia apart. It's what we learned now

  1. Ukraine will owe us BIG TIME for all of our weapons
  2. They still need Russia for fuel. So does the surrounding nations so no Russia will absolutely win and subsequently fall on its own considering Europeans don't like having children. ( old people don't buy stuff and can't work)
  3. We are able to see how fast we can ship equipment across the world and watch it fight a conventional military which protects our national security.
  4. America doesn't need Europe, Europe needs America. Nato is basically a way to save money on not having an army. America is slowly starting to see how useless it is to keep up a pace to stop nazis and communists. Both regimes are almost certain to never happen again. You know with the whole average European age being like 40 something.
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WorldlyPie3815 t1_j6jy35m wrote

Dude! America is using this war to exploit europe. All wars and unrest around the world the last decades has been started by you beloved country

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Kewenfu t1_j6ksy32 wrote

Try to make that one brain cell you have useful.

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asdfgh5889 t1_j6jl9ad wrote

Also it's easy for people to say from their safe homes fuck Russia and go Ukraine while innocent people are dying. The war was not the solution at all. They should have avoided war and now it's being fueled more. I don't want to Ukraine to lose (as a person from former USSR country I don't like Russia either, not the people) but is the end goal here?

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