lordderplythethird t1_j6jbr6m wrote on January 30, 2023 at 7:10 PM

Reply to comment by AppleToGrind in Britain calls for AUKUS expansion by Falls_stuff

Issues with that;

US will not allow Canada to share nuclear submarine designs until it accepts the NW Passage as an international strait, same as Malacca or Hormuz. It's why the Canada Class nuclear submarine was vetoed by the US
Canada unfortunately doesn't offer anything. It's not even a factor in hypersonics, advanced AI, loyal wingman UAVs, etc, and it criminally underfunds its military, particularly R&D. So not bringing any knowledge, and not bringing any funding. It's in effect, being a free rider.
Canada has not joined the US, UK, Australia, and Japan in recognizing China as a threat to security. Hell, the Canadian military is still doing research studies with the Chinese government. When the crux of AUKUS is looking square at China, Canada is not a great ally on that front.
Canadian political leadership have openly stated they have no desire to join AUKUS, even though their military leadership is screaming for it. Same as when the military leadership was begging for the F-35, but was told "no, the Minister of Fisheries will decide what fighter jet the military gets".

TROPtastic t1_j6kodwr wrote on January 31, 2023 at 12:23 AM

Seems like this

>Canadian political leadership have openly stated they have no desire to join AUKUS, even though their military leadership is screaming for it.

Is directly opposed by this

>US will not allow Canada to share nuclear submarine designs until it accepts the NW Passage as an international strait, same as Malacca or Hormuz

The Straits of Hormuz and Malacca are of course irrelevant here, since the shortest (desired) routes of the Northwest Passage take it through exclusively Canadian waters rather than waters shared by two nations. Comparisons to the Bosphorus and the Dardennelles straits are more appropriate.

AppleToGrind t1_j6jzvfg wrote on January 30, 2023 at 9:39 PM

The knowledge I gained from all of that is that the United States is a regional bully and we as Canadians are doing the best thing we can do which is flip them the bird, geopolitically speaking. Goes in line with our passive-aggressive identity and actually makes me proud.

lordderplythethird t1_j6l7km0 wrote on January 31, 2023 at 2:45 AM

That would be wildly uneducated, but that's fair and to each their own. Or Canada could accept international law and not try to fuck over their allies in the US and Europe with both declaring the NW Passage as a shipping route AND denying it's an international strait for shipping, in a blatantly illegal move to tax all shipping traversing those waters, where the most frequent users would be the US and Europe. It's as fucking moronic as China's claims in the South China Sea, or if Mexico demanded to tax all ships who entered the Gulf of Mexico...

Or we can falsely cry wolf and pretend Canada is being bullied. That works too I guess?

AppleToGrind t1_j6nuy7r wrote on January 31, 2023 at 5:35 PM

International Law are a set of rules created by dominant players (ie. United States) using their leverage to largely benefit themselves. They have been imposed on smaller players because the alternative is far worse. So yeah, enjoy our middle finger salute.