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tinkthank t1_j6imshx wrote
>The Pakistani government military...
The Pakistani military leadership uses terrorist groups as leverage tools for foreign policy and domestic politics. The people of Pakistan have always been victims of both foreign military forces and their own government and military.
ChemicalAd5087 t1_j6iw0zl wrote
The government has always been a puppet. But it’s also the government. Imagine a Prime minister calling Osama as a martyr in the parliament. The statement sucks but the magnitude of the place and by whom it was made is a reflection of the country’s sentiment.
Edit: prime monster to prime minister. Although in Pak it’s one and the same Thing
robobear32 t1_j6k71ck wrote
Imagine lying about WMD's and funding the rise and training of the Taliban just to start a white flag war and kill people who never done anything to you. Dude the first thing you did in Afghanistan was rob their museums like in Babylon and stole their poppy fields, America wanted to loot and pillage the place not protect the world from a radical group that they started themselves. Bin Laden was literally a friend to the bushes and have family photos together before he got thrown under the bus for profit, plus let's not bring up the whole 9/11 lie and the fact that your own government committed an act of terrorism on its own citizens it swears to protect
pete245 t1_j6j0ddp wrote
THE MILITARY NOT THE GOVERNMENT
When the war on terror started the US worked with a military dictator in Pakistan. The military ran everything. They gave billions in aid to Mushraff most of which was used by him to solidify power and not to actually improve their fighting.
The US knew this for years and accepted this as cost of business in getting their goals done in Afghanistan.
What happens now is the military still controls most things, and people in positions of power are either too afraid or threatened or blackmailed into doing their bidding. The democratic government comes into power but have less authority because of those decades of control.
So now if a journalist speaks up against the military they can be picked up at night or killed, if politicians go against them they can be tortured, if people protest they may be threatened.
The Pakistani people are victims of military policy and foreign intervention more than anything. And it's no surprise the biggest party in the country and most vocal group of resistance against the military comes from the Pakistani province that directly borders Afghanistan.
tinkthank t1_j6k40pm wrote
Oddly Musharraf was the best ally the US had, he actually went after extremist groups hard which is why he was a target of so many assassination attempts.
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HerYams t1_j6izxny wrote
Doesn’t matter, the Afghan Taliban is housing the Pakistani Taliban leadership in Kabul and its leadership pledged allegiance to the Afghan Taliban.
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fartuni4 t1_j6jhqd7 wrote
'govt'?
us backed military that overthrew the democratic elected govt of pakistan....
Persephone3129 t1_j6jyjr2 wrote
Ah yes. A “democratic” government handpicked by the Pakistan military, whose wannabe fascist leader Imran “Taliban” Khan called global terrorist Osama Bin Laden a “martyr.” The Pakistani military ousted Imran Khan once he fell out of favor with it. Spare us the conspiracy theories always blaming foreign interference. Pakistan has NEVER had a democratic government complete a single term. And that failure is on Pakistan’s rotten institutions, not the U.S.
factsquirrel t1_j6hqwd6 wrote
WFH hasn't ended in Pakistan it seems... Seriously, sad news and hope the victims recover.
yolkadot t1_j6hipie wrote
Terrorism is so stupid… nobody will think: oh yeah, that’s a really great cause these guys are fighting for. I really like how they don’t mind killing innocent people for their cause…
There must be better ways to communicate than terrorism!
Mirathecat22 t1_j6hnt89 wrote
You’d think so yet people still join terrorist grouped
rd_rd_rd t1_j6ibhkn wrote
If they smart or at least have enough common sense they won't be a terrorist in the first place, sadly this people are brainwashed to believe that murdering people that against their believe would result heaven and some shit.
Not to mention terrorists usually living in poor condition, so they got nothing to lose and went straight to the after life in hoping to "collect their prize".
LucienSatanClaus t1_j6idfqy wrote
It's even more stupider when states sponsor them - and then it inevitably comes to bite them.
AveryLazyCovfefe t1_j6ix0n1 wrote
And the thing is, the reason for blowing up the mosque is even more stupid. Its probably just the Pakistani Taliban getting angry that the 'wrong Islam' is being practiced instead of their extreme-to-the-core version of it. They're to trying to increase their presence in the region as they want to pressure the government to give in and split the country to give a seperate country for them.
slckening t1_j6lnu9n wrote
They are extremists, they don't care. In their heads there is conspiracy and everyone is wrong and they are the only ones who are right and they'll stop at nothing to achieve their goals.
VirginsinceJuly1998 t1_j6hy62g wrote
Now 46. And chances of getting more. Sad
PerspectiveNo1067 t1_j6lua7n wrote
Reached to 82, unfortunately.
StillBurningInside t1_j6hnuno wrote
This is "the management of savagery"
WikiSummarizerBot t1_j6hnvue wrote
>Management of Savagery: The Most Critical Stage Through Which the Islamic Nation Will Pass (Arabic: إدارة التوحش: أخطر مرحلة ستمر بها الأمة, Idārat at-Tawaḥḥuš: Akhṭar marḥalah satamurru bihā l 'ummah), also translated as Administration of Savagery, is a book by the Islamist strategist Abu Bakr Naji, published on the Internet in 2004. It aimed to provide a strategy for al-Qaeda and other extremists whereby they could create a new Islamic caliphate. The real identity of Abu Bakr Naji is claimed by the Al Arabiya Institute for Studies to be Mohammad Hasan Khalil al-Hakim.
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geophilo t1_j6ii2lc wrote
Why is an Islamic terrorist group destroying mosques? Enlighten me, I'm missing something.
Lotharofthepotatoppl t1_j6ikg8q wrote
Violent extremists who think the Muslims all around them aren’t Muslim enough.
cAArlsagan t1_j6ilgal wrote
Jihadists mostly kill Muslims.
geophilo t1_j6imjvd wrote
Fair enough
throawayacc1984 t1_j6ikon3 wrote
They aren't muslim enough probably, or maybe they are the wrong kind of muslim.
avilashrath t1_j6iqftt wrote
Shia
zumbadumbadumdum t1_j6ljm9o wrote
The mosque was inside a police complex. Most people dead are Pakistani police. The Taliban don't like Pakistan establishment. Seems weird since Pakistan hoped that the Taliban government would be favourable than a secular government in afganistan.
Motorized23 t1_j6j72vl wrote
As a Muslim, I'm just as confused. Just confirms that extremism and terrorists have no religion. They're just fanatics that are brainwashed.
geophilo t1_j6jaua0 wrote
Dark times my friend. I live near Dearborn in Michigan USA, huge Muslim population. Nicest people I've ever met. And the best food. God bless.
Motorized23 t1_j6jk6gg wrote
I see things are LARGELY getting better!
Side note - I've been meaning to go to Dearborn MI for some good food!
underdogsurvivor2020 t1_j6iy6nz wrote
Friendly fire in peaceful community
PGDW t1_j6i82m4 wrote
Sounds like they just wanted to kill one cop? Surely there's easier ways.
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TheHadalZone t1_j6j7180 wrote
I don’t understand why the Taliban would attack a mosque? Isn’t that a sacred place to them?
ivegoturnumber t1_j6jxuy1 wrote
False flag attack by the regime!
Anal_carnavaI t1_j6mdexu wrote
3 days ago in Israel now Pakistan, what's the common divider here you ask? A muslim extremist
tjx9 t1_j6j0503 wrote
Pakistan should foxus on industrialization and exports instead of supporting terrorism
Motorized23 t1_j6jjxs3 wrote
Thing is, Pakistan doesn't really support terrorism. The military however keeps close ties with militant groups largely to keep them in check and to leverage them in case of an all out war. In fact Pakistan had a massive campaign to rid itself of terrorism after a terrorist attack on a school. So no, Pakistan doesn't support terrorism, that's just propaganda spread by one of our neighbors unfortunately.
For cross border issues, Afghanistan and India have internal issues (as does Pakistan) but they both look to blame Pakistan for their own short comings.
UnderratedComment97 t1_j6ldqii wrote
Lmao.. with delusions comes hallucinations
throawayacc1984 t1_j6lnt99 wrote
Ah yes everything is India's fault. Nice.
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UnderratedComment97 t1_j6ldzl0 wrote
59 so far… for the crime of being infidels.. Yes muslims can be infidels too..
Anti-theist999 t1_j6hmim9 wrote
People pretending to be followers of Islam....killing other Muslims. 😐 When will it end?
nura2011 t1_j6iaksc wrote
> People pretending to be followers of Islam
There's no pretending. They are all followers of the same religion branding the others as not really following the religion.
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Anti-theist999 t1_j6n0yiy wrote
Not really true. I say this as someone who generally despises religion including Islam.
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booboo_baabaa t1_j6hizi4 wrote
No one does. Not even the pakistanis.
MadDingersYo t1_j6hkezu wrote
....he said, as if he deeply cared about this news.
Jeep-RN t1_j6hk6n3 wrote
Explain the situation to me like I’m a 6 year old. Because, I have no clue what is going on in Pakistans besides they had a flood, famine and the economy is on last ditch life support. And declining quickly.
Level-Blueberry-2707 t1_j6hjytd wrote
I think most of the attention is focused in the middle east at the moment.
UrbanStray t1_j6ho1ho wrote
This sub is mostly just Russia/Ukraine. Scrolling through headline after headline about some country making another arms shipment to Ukraine and Zelensky making some statement gets a little tedious.
IllustriousArcher199 t1_j6i096k wrote
The Pakistani government sheltered the Taliban when they were hiding out in Pakistan when the Americans were supporting the former Afghan government. Now, the Taliban terrorists are attacking Pakistanis.