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TheGoblinPopper t1_j6n05uw wrote

I just went to Israel a few months ago. I sat down with a lieutenant colonel from the army (retired and now a tour guide) and asked him open ended questions about the situation without responding (just a lot of 'oh wow, our news doesn't say that' and the like).

He said a bunch of interesting things all related to wanting peace, but the two that stuck the most to me were:

  1. the Palestinians come to the table with demands that will never be met, like asking every single Jew in Jerusalem to leave their homes. Some have been there for so long now that they would never leave their homes.

  2. whoever actually is able to make a deal with the Palestinians will likely be assassinated or have a number of attempts on their life. So it will only happen if Israel has a very strong leader in place to make those tough decisions.

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Metsfan2044 t1_j6n8bzs wrote

100% this! People who have never been to the region will never understand the complexity of the situation. And it absolutely kills me that our educational system is allowing BDS to be an actual thing. Those who support BDS can’t grasp the concept that Hamas’s (the ruling party) convent literally states that "our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious" and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic state in Palestine, in place of Israel and the Palestinian Territories,[3] and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel.[4][5] It emphasizes the importance of jihad, stating in article 13, "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.”

And sadly they aren’t even the most extreme group in the Palestinian Territories

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TheGoblinPopper t1_j6njqns wrote

I mean as an American I was unaware of the nuance. Like how they won't stamp your passport.

Why? Because when we went to Jordan the border crossing agents "won't accept a defaced passport with a stamp from a made-up control like Israel."

Literally what they told us at the border. My wife and I love getting stamps in our passports and they refused.

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whitewalker646 t1_j6nmpnl wrote

Wasn’t rabin assassinated for formulating a peace plan that was accepted by the PLO

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TheGoblinPopper t1_j6o5xdu wrote

Yes, that was his example of why he believed that. I'm historically that would be expected.

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