Supercilious-420 t1_j6lebic wrote
Reply to comment by Rexia2022 in Canadian universities have been conducting joint research with Chinese military scientists for years by No-Drawing-6975
Alright but it has been almost 10 years with Xi..
RonyTheTiger t1_j6lg689 wrote
Unless you’re officially at war countries don’t usually cut ties quickly. 10 years is quick in a global sense.
Supercilious-420 t1_j6livn7 wrote
Of course, but there is a difference between severing diplomatic ties and allowing problematic collaboration such as the example described in this article. That’s just the tip of the iceberg here in Canada when you look at the level of interference in Canadian business and politics, not to mention the police stations they have been running in violation of our sovereignty.
I am not anti-immigration by any means, and I do not have any bad feelings towards the Chinese people themselves, but the Chinese government is and has been awful for many decades.
grapehelium t1_j6lp8db wrote
There was also a potential Chinese spying incident in a Canadian virology lab in 2019. (Although I am not sure how the investigation ended)
GreenNatureR t1_j6ngv24 wrote
Detailed article in Jan 2021
>It’s been 2½ years since Qiu and Cheng were removed from the lab. It’s been a year since they were actually fired, in January 2021. And yet they have yet to be formally accused of anything, and it’s not known if they have retained legal counsel.
It's 3 and a half years now.
another article by BBC in 2020
>A tweet with more than 12,000 retweets and 13,000 likes - claimed without evidence that Dr Qiu and her husband were a "spy team", had sent "pathogens to the Wuhan facility", and that her husband "specialised in coronavirus research".
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>None of the three claims in the tweet can be found in the two CBC reports and the terms "coronavirus" and "spy" do not appear even once in either.
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>CBC has since reported that these claims are baseless.
Acromegalic t1_j6m1op4 wrote
Are you saying there are Chinese police stations in Canada?
Supercilious-420 t1_j6m2cpe wrote
Yeah it’s a thing, like all of the major news networks have published stories on it.
Koss424 t1_j6mxzig wrote
they are everywhere in the Western World, but has come to the attention of the proper authorities recently.
Thunderbolt747 t1_j6mscg6 wrote
Yes. Its well documented too.
RushingTech t1_j6nfnv1 wrote
I don't understand why they are called police stations. It's not like the Chinese agents operating in them have any authority in the country they're stationed in. They are spies plain and simple.
Acromegalic t1_j6nk9t4 wrote
Ho-leee shit! That's fucking CRAZY that any country would allow that on their soil. Do they not know about the CCP campaign to infiltrate the world's governments and steal information and gain influence‽
I mean... every country on the planet has some spies, but to be that brash and not get arrested or detained? That's a HUGE failure on the part of the state.
That really makes me question my previous assumption that Canada was a secure neighbor.
That's crazy...
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Supercilious-420 t1_j6lurgb wrote
Yeah but the CCP has more that is wrong with it than Xi himself.
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dream208 t1_j6m1i15 wrote
By Deng you meant “crush students and Beijing citizens with tanks on June 4th 1989” Deng?
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harder_said_hodor t1_j6mhp5s wrote
>They never ask themselves that if Deng was such a genuine reformist, then how the hell did things become so much more conservative with Xi?
Are you suggesting Hu wasn't a genuine reformist?
All of the leaders have some kind of blood on their hands, but the run from Deng to Hu was promising. It's a massive shame what has happened in China
Minoltah t1_j6n72a3 wrote
Promising for what? Hu is regarded as a soft negotiator/messenger in global diplomacy - a strategy which Xi strongly rejected with unfriendly countries but which really backfired or failed to achieve full wconomic effect. Hu was very popular among non-political people because he was quiet.
He however was even more economically conservative than Deng and also orchestrated the violent repression of Tibet and legislated the threat to attack an independent Taiwan.
What is there to suggest to you that either of these people were nice or good people?
A 'reform' in China is not a progressive policy and everything is done in the framework of having a viable and more importantly, stable and secure socialist dictatorship.
Their 'reforms' are things like "perfect goal, poor execution. We'll torture people differently this time to achieve a better result".
China has been winning the global propaganda war that puts China in a very fair, free and positive light especially among developing countries and in Africa.
I really can't recall any instance of Hu being seen as a particularly strong leader and certainly nothing as an economic/social reformist that hoped to radically change his society. He reformed things in order to reduce corruption and party fighting. I'm not really sure what kind of reforms you are hinting at that are not anything outside of the norm of all Chinese leaders. Hu was an administrative reformist but socially repressive and economically concervative and was just in general a very cautious leader. If he has a reputation as an economic and social progressive reformist now - which I don't believe he does - then that is nothing but a new propaganda. I suppose it helps when a leader is long-gone from the role that the party paints them in a more positive light so people don't become bitter, but learn to remember that every leader was actually good for them in the end.
China doesn't want to "open up" economically. They want to get rich quick and capitalism is the way to do it. Many industries overproduced so why shouldn't they be exporting their surplus product? It's also useful for promoting new technologies which allows creative people access to reverse engineer them and think about domestic innovation.
Many industries have timeframes to become independent of reliance on other countries. The long, long-term goal is Autarky because trade is one area where the U.S has them by the balls if they go starting a conflict with Taiwan or India.
The USSR was more or less closed to trade and look at the quality of their industry and domestic products as a result - the quality is even lower than what it was in the 1970s. If it wasn't for all the technology and people stolen from the DDR, modern Russia would be even worse off. Of course China doesn't want to remain that isolated. It wasn't working for them. They promote trade and international education and suddenly their technology and quality of life greatly leaps forward at a rapid pace. Xi is trying to reign that in so that these advanced products don't need to be imported, otherwise they lose all of their educated talent and just back to square 1 because importing is the path of least resistance but it can also be an economic opium.
DownImpulse t1_j6mlz4p wrote
Nah, never happened. It’s a conspiracy promoted by the belligerent west. We come in peace.
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