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mrgreyeyes t1_j4x709x wrote

We are glad to have you as our new biggest customer.

Kind regards the Dutch.

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work_work-work t1_j4xnyne wrote

Norway is quite happy too! :-)

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Proud_Viking t1_j4zkdwt wrote

We're REALLY not. Norwegians are losing their shit because we have to export electricity to the EU which is driving up our bills. It's all we talk about

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mrspidey80 t1_j4znl20 wrote

Everyone's electricity bills are up.

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MrPapillon t1_j4zplmt wrote

Yes, but you really don't want the Norse people to start thinking about ways to upgrade their quality of life by "interacting" with their neighbors.

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TremendousCustard t1_j504ci6 wrote

English. Apparently ours are the highest in the world at the moment. Having to choose whether to be warm or eat is horrible and I don't recommend it.

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akirodic t1_j4zqtu0 wrote

Just make more energy and make tons of money! Problem solved!

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DoBetterGodDangIt t1_j529has wrote

We all have to chip in to get this done. We are all dealing with price hikes

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Proud_Viking t1_j52b2ia wrote

I agree, but we're not "quite happy about it". The energy firms that sell our cheap electricity for a high price on the european market, while hiking up domestic prices are quite happy however.

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valoon4 t1_j4xmf9g wrote

This will influence the Dutch-German Relationship for some decades

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Joezev98 t1_j4xvhux wrote

We're shutting off our gas fields because houses are quaking apart and the government is handling it so badly that some people wish that their houses would collapse on top of them. That would finally send the government the signal that something really needs to be done.

It's an absolute clusterfuck. Oh, and did I mention we have a housing crisis, so when the gas-extraction induced earthquakes make a house unsafe to live in, there's nowhere else for them to go. And on top of that, we've just had a big inflow of refugees that also have to be housed somewhere.

I doubt it'll take decades to shutt off the gas.

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Timey16 t1_j4zrohp wrote

Yeah Germany too is now on the way to FINALLY adopt heat pumps... but it will take many years to transform basically every building in the country. Especially since heat pumps used to be so uncommon, only very few companies can actually install them.

While a surge in the industry will cause new companies to arise, it will take a while for them to establish themselves.

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Janni0007 t1_j50ek1x wrote

Now lets not overreact even before the war there were 130000 new heatpumps installed in germany every year. It is not like this is entirely unknown territory. Seeing as we actually also produce heatpumps in large scale in germany ourselves, I do not see why we wouldnt be able to install a lot in a few years time. Current goal of the economy and climate minister is 500 000 new heatpumps each year.

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kraenk12 t1_j51x2po wrote

Main reason is most houses aren’t fit enough to really make the trouble worth it.

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VotingStar t1_j4zfdqk wrote

Most of the gas from the Netherlands to Germany is due to the lack of LNG terminals in Germany. It's LNG unloaded to Germany via Belgium and the Netherlands.

As for Norway, they were asked multiple times in 2022 to increase the deliveries but refused every time. There is just no capacity to deliver more to Germany.

While gas imports from Russia to Europe decreased in 2022, the imports from the USA doubled at the same time.

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URITooLong t1_j4zkb0l wrote

Wasn't Germany already the biggest customer ?

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mrgreyeyes t1_j509tmv wrote

Yes! But now we are even more dependent on them!

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URITooLong t1_j50c85n wrote

Where are you from ? In your first comment you said "we are glad to have you as a customer" and now you say "we are even more dependent on them"

It can't be both.

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