LostHisDog t1_j5vjjtc wrote
I sure hope no one in China is still pissed about that time the west got nearly their entire country hooked on heroin... cuz I can imagine that might be sort of a sticky point if it comes up.
AMAFSH t1_j5x9pyy wrote
Opium War Three, the Re-opiuming.
Svete_Brid t1_j5y28xx wrote
That was Britain. Not ‘the west’.
Midnight2012 t1_j5xtm7y wrote
That wasn't America.
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Goodkat203 t1_j5w6ovt wrote
About as likely as America deciding to not help Taiwan in the event of a Chinese invasion on the basis of being pissed about that time the east bombed Pearl Harbor.
0pimo t1_j5wg4tv wrote
I imagine that the CCP is doing it intentionally and this is part of the reason why.
Assuming the CCP is our friend is dumb.
The only solution is to tell them to stop, or we stop exporting energy and food to them and they can starve.
Propagation931 t1_j5xcuz5 wrote
>or we stop exporting energy and food to them and they can starve.
Couldnt they just import energy nd food from somewhere else? Not to mention the pushback from the respective food nd energy sectors which would hurt politically (since the trade deficit with China likely went up cus u killed exports) esp with 2024 elections so close.
Sweaty_Maybe1076 OP t1_j61j58w wrote
No. The US is the largest producer of food in the world
Propagation931 t1_j61jc9x wrote
>No. The US is the largest producer of food in the world
US is third behind India and China in terms of production. US is top in terms of exports, but its not like those all go to China which is geographically pretty far.
Sweaty_Maybe1076 OP t1_j61q5we wrote
Do you know why the entire food chain is disrupted right now? Ukraine. And they do not hold a candle to the US exports.
If the US were to cease food production (exports), the entire comforts you know will cease to exist, regardless of the country you live in
Propagation931 t1_j61yy5y wrote
>If the US were to cease food production (exports),
Presumably, the US wouldnt cease exports to all countries if its beef was with China and drugs. In fact, doing so would greatly strengthen China on the diplomatic stage since the US just pissed off almost every1 due to. The Hardest hit would be the pooerer countries like in Africa and Latin America which are also the countries China is trying to woo.
>entire food chain is disrupted
Not to mention the huge domestic issues from basically wrecking a huge portion of its export industry and all the jobs and families it would affect. The current opposition (Republicans) would pounce on this claiming the Dems basically destroyed tons of Jobs, starved a ton of poor countries, and raised the Trade Deficit. The Dems could basically kiss 2024 and likely 2026 good bye.
Sweaty_Maybe1076 OP t1_j5vm3pk wrote
Source?
elshankar t1_j5vnbyr wrote
Do you really need a source for that? There were 2 wars fought over the issue.
WikiSummarizerBot t1_j5vndq9 wrote
>The Opium Wars (simplified Chinese: 鸦片战争; traditional Chinese: 鴉片戰爭 Yāpiàn zhànzhēng) were two conflicts waged between China and Western powers during the mid-19th century. The First Opium War was fought from 1839 to 1842 between China and the United Kingdom, and was triggered by the Chinese government's campaign to enforce its prohibition against opium trafficking by British merchants. The Second Opium War was waged by Britain and France against China from 1856 to 1860.
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herpaderp43321 t1_j5w9v03 wrote
so...150 something years ago if the bot is correct? Damn talk about holding a grudge. Then again maybe china WONT be sore about it if they find out we can just do it again...and this time around they won't be able to do much about it.
m0le t1_j5xdjoh wrote
You think 150 years is a long time to hold a grudge? Hahaha you sweet summer child. Ask the Irish how they feel about the potato famine, or the English about the French in general, or indeed pretty much any European country about pretty much all of their neighbours.
herpaderp43321 t1_j5y5r0v wrote
Thought the EU mostly had their issues worked out? Plus another commenter said china hates the west for "picking on them when they were too weak to do anything about it" as if the only reason china isn't strong right now is cause of the west. It's like they don't understand if they get caught off, they collapse basically on the spot. It's in their best interest here to just let something like the drug wars and what not go if they really want to prosper.
m0le t1_j5y7aso wrote
Nope. The EU as a whole has major tensions historical and current, and always will. That doesn't stop them working together when necessary but can be a little awkward. It's like an ex you've got serious history with - kids and shared property, say. Most of the time you're civil to each other, every so often it gets bitter and horrible for a while but you always manage to grit your teeth and get a working relationship going again because it'd just be disastrous if you didn't. Britain is currently sulking in the corner though sent some apology flowers to get everyone to help out their neighbour Ukraine. It's all fun and games until it turns vicious.
dumpmaster42069 t1_j5wqap0 wrote
Yeah actually most of China is still very pissed about the centuries of disrespect the west showed them when they were to weak to do anything. You’re talking about a country with a very Long view on time going backwards or forwards
Sweaty_Maybe1076 OP t1_j5yiuz9 wrote
It's convenient to have totally omitted ww2
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dumpmaster42069 t1_j60rmf9 wrote
Yeah well things happened fast after that. Kinda spoiled the happy feelings.
Sweaty_Maybe1076 OP t1_j60ttsx wrote
You mean a soviet proxy civil war attempt which installed Mao whom only a few years later caused the great family which killed 55 million people?
The only spoiled feelings after that I imagine is the CCP officials knowing you picked the wrong side
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