> The energy input to energy output ratio for wind and solar isn't good... With nuclear and natural gas we put in the same inputs and get 20x (or more) the return as solar or wind.

The hell is this nonsense? The "energy in" is literally sunlight. Natural gas is gas extracted from the earth that you're burning to create more CO2.

The sunlight is going to hit the earth either way, we're capturing some of it as energy. The efficiency there is infinite.

>The sad thing is that solar and wind are not going to save us and will probably lead to an increase in habitat loss and destruction all over the planet.

Complete nonsense. We'd need a 115,000 square mile solar plant to power the entire world. Libya, a country you probably haven't thought of in a while, is 679,000 square miles.

So to power the entire world we'd need an area less than a quarter the size of Libya. Which, again, is a country you haven't thought about in months. No, this is not actually that much area.