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ComprehensiveLaw7522 t1_j11sdyr wrote
Historically, it helped Russia win the war against Germany. Weird how the German military in WWII has the problems of the Russian military today. Improper equipment, scarce rations, low training, conscripts, the list goes on
A7V- t1_j12cg6k wrote
The list would probably start with "being commanded by a decrepit, sick, foolish, bloodthirsty, murderous old man."
Vashyo t1_j12fztl wrote
Situation is very similar with all those. Even down to the part of being surrounded by only yes-men.
Germans fought probably better initially only because of the force of pervitin.
zepprith t1_j145a9w wrote
Stalin wasn't the best person either. He killed millions just like Hitler, the deference is WWII was a defensive war for Russia.
DillBagner t1_j12gsxg wrote
It helped the USSR win a defensive war against Germany* A majority of the Soviet forces fighting, if I remember correctly, were Ukrainian.
Kandiru t1_j13acfr wrote
So this is Ukrainians killing Nazis again? WWII part ii?
gamerqc t1_j10rjz5 wrote
Russia is amassing troops in Belarus. They will probably try a last ditch effort to take Kiev, then collapse once they get wiped out for good because let's be real: it won't succeed. Ukraine had almost a year to fortify this area. Even if Lukashenko joins Russia and invades, it won't change a thing, plus Belarus will probably revolt and he knows it.
MANDATORY_DEPRESSION t1_j10t9xz wrote
They're amassing in Belarus so that they can force the Belorussians into the fray with them. I'm sure forcing another army to fight for you at gunpoint won't have any negative repercussions.
oldaliumfarmer t1_j10u0ao wrote
The 'wastage' in storage in Belarus will not be a trained or effective fighting force. From what I understand the training of anyone decent in Belarus is for police duty both in occupied territory and to protect Putin Inc . At the moment Russia cannot supply drinking water to troops what hope does any massed mob have?
thewidowgorey t1_j12ipof wrote
Belarusians are pissed at Lukashenko since he refused to concede and partisans have been working to sabotage the railways that send equipment to Russia.
peanutlover420 t1_j11agml wrote
Got any source related to the "is Amassing troops in Belarus"?
flash-tractor t1_j11u2sd wrote
Tons of recent articles, it's not a secret at all.
seven_seven t1_j12x7g3 wrote
Unfortunately Kiev will probably destroyed.
oldaliumfarmer t1_j10jx2z wrote
With what Army. Has Putin managed to bring back the dead?
Lance-Harper t1_j10qvs2 wrote
Putin pulling an Aragorn
Ehldas t1_j113ow2 wrote
Reverse Aragorn... start with an army of live soldiers and finish up with dead ones.
theonlyonethatknocks t1_j121y8t wrote
Well you got to have dead ones to raise an army of the dead
Reddvox t1_j1358wf wrote
Zapp Brannigan's "Art of War"
MANDATORY_DEPRESSION t1_j10sv1e wrote
That's an army!
Prevailing_Power t1_j115owe wrote
Russian population is 140M+, and supposedly the male population is ~60m.
If they've been training people ever since their major blunder, and are able to keep it under wraps, that army.
It looks like this:
- Shore up the line with prisoners and other "undesirables".
- Start training new men.
- Send them in.
Still, do they have the equipment? Sending meat waves - even if they're trained - isn't doing shit if they don't have the kit.
Don't make the mistake of thinking this is over. Far from it, as long as Putin in safe.
Oldalliumfarmer t1_j116ndg wrote
I am not questioning your thoughts.
Do you think they held back the kit they need? Shipped in from N. Korea?
Iran? He does not care how many he kills. He is not rational or sane. Can you hide training an army that large?
porncrank t1_j123i2k wrote
If you only care about your control of resources, there’s no reason to worry about killing hundreds of thousands of people. They’re like dollars spent to acquire something you want. You don’t mourn them. You are more excited about your score. From his perspective it’s perfectly rational and sane. I’d call it pure evil, but he doesn’t think that’s a thing.
Prevailing_Power t1_j117zyk wrote
Honestly, I have no idea if you can hide the training. A few million people divided up amongst all their training places might not even be noticeable. Again, no idea on the kit.
One things for sure, they know what they're dealing with and there won't be surprises like last time. If they truly do have a secret army they're training, this could go pretty badly.
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Akiasakias t1_j11wgf9 wrote
They have not yet fully mobilized. The Russian army will be larger when the spring mud dries, but Ukrainian deferred maintenance on all the captured equipment will also be done then.
May might be decisive either way.
rosiyaidynakher t1_j118r5f wrote
Hopefully if russia Shanghai’s Belarus into this they’ll simply mutiny and join Ukraine.
whydoineedsaname t1_j10yoh8 wrote
Belarus doesn't have any reason to supply and train a military, no country would ever attack them while they are under the protection of the superior Russian military...
Matelot67 t1_j12ooe6 wrote
You could probably pull off a winter offensive with properly equipped personnel, a sound and robust supply line, a heathy reserve of logistics and a well trained and highly motivated force.
So, what is Putin using?
The man has all the military and tactical ability of Hitler in 1945.
Samuraisaurus t1_j1300ij wrote
You can tell because some troops are getting issued socks.
GorgeousGamer99 t1_j12v3kb wrote
In soviet winter, Russia invade you
TheThirdOutlier t1_j10lrgn wrote
Believe this man
flopsyplum t1_j132ewn wrote
Still no answer for HIMARS.
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stomachworm t1_j10j4wn wrote
Ukranian generals would never lie about that.
rosiyaidynakher t1_j118kkn wrote
Why the fuck would they lie about it?
contrafibulator t1_j122xfm wrote
Do you mean you believe that Russia is not planning new offensives to finish the war in Ukraine in their favor, and instead intends to keep dying in their present positions as long as they can until they finally get thrown out?
Lance-Harper t1_j10r5hn wrote
Exactly. Because there's a grand spectator such as Europe, both sides of the war have a great interest into propaganda and the shit media always exacerbate it further. So everything is to be taken with a grain of salt
porncrank t1_j123ugg wrote
So what do you think Putin is planning for the winter? A retreat? Sit and wait?
Seems to me a major new offensive is most likely. And that people like yourself are so twisted in knots trying to be clever you forget to think whether what you’re saying makes sense.
Lance-Harper t1_j1303yh wrote
Not my propos.
But do you see how conflated your question is: asking a random internet person what’s the next strategic move in a war we are not part of as if we were experts on the matter.
momentum77 t1_j10nn21 wrote
Because winter offensives have been historically successful.