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[deleted] t1_j1nebvf wrote

Reply to comment by macross1984 in Chinese ships depart after record-long intrusion into Japanese waters by OceanBreeze246

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Ceratisa t1_j1nevc8 wrote

It belongs to Japan realistically. China didn't dispute it until they became valuable eez wise.

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InformationHorder t1_j1ok17x wrote

The islands themselves aren't valuable at all. Nothing on em cept bird poop.

This is about who controls the seas around them, and about who is "right". The Chinese see everything in terms of prestige and power. They want them so they can flex and show they don't back down from anything no matter how insignificant.

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FnordFinder t1_j1orhs6 wrote

Bird poop is actually fairly valuable for agriculture.

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pheonixblade9 t1_j1ou2mi wrote

it was prior to the Haber process being invented. not really important, now.

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kimchifreeze t1_j1ov6l2 wrote

The Guano Islands Act of 1856 is still a thing though. Not f or these islands obviously.

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Substantial_Term_468 t1_j1qsce2 wrote

Yeah, they definitely view those bird poop islands as an economic asset, planning the mining operations as we speak. 🙄

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mrcleaver t1_j1p5pzu wrote

What makes Japan's claim any more legitimate than Taiwan's or China's? The fact that they started administering it formally as part of an imperialist period in their history in the late 1800s?

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ExplosiveDiarrhetic t1_j1p7vxh wrote

Uh, yes.

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BestSun4804 t1_j1pd3cf wrote

So, by your logic, China can attack the island and just took it over. And others shouldn't have anything to say because it is not wrong and it is what it is. This is the exact way Japan has a hand on the island.

Then why are you still crying about their dispute?? It is a normal direction it must take, for war to happen. So it is dispute between China and Japan, just let them has war there to decide who finally own it. It is not your issue to care about, that's their fight.

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mrcleaver t1_j1p9id6 wrote

So are you saying being the first to land troops somewhere is the only requirement to declare something as yours?

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sanzy1988 t1_j1pfm57 wrote

How do you think all territories in the world were claimed? A game of poker?

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ExplosiveDiarrhetic t1_j1rmd7x wrote

Japan administered the islands in the 1800’s. USA, after occupying japan, returned them to japan.

If anything, the taiwan government has more of a claim than china. China has zero claim. But of the three, japan has more of a claim.

Also being the most recent owner tends to be how the world works. Native americans havent been given back america. Its impossible to go back in time. End of the day, the current administrator is japan.

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[deleted] t1_j1nfzgo wrote

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D1ldoh1tler t1_j1nspxq wrote

Lol why?

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czs5056 t1_j1nvjad wrote

They suggested that Taiwan is still the legitimate government of mainland China

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Ok_Yogurtcloset8915 t1_j1o6huz wrote

kind of a silly stance tbh, by those rules it's actually the Qing dynasty that's the rightful government of mainland china

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