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fIreballchamp t1_j1vqo5g wrote

Reply to comment by Pilotom_7 in RFE/RL: Russia is forcing Armenia to provide corridor to Azerbaijan, to join Union State, Security Council chief says by nephronum

Look at a map. Azerbaijan needs access through Armenia to get to part of its country. There's a large enclave with a portion of Armenia blocking access.

Sometimes difficult decisions have to be made. Armenia keeps getting beaten up by Azerbaijan and Russia wants to stop this. If Armenia blocks access, Azerbaijan will attack Armenia, they will win and they will kill Armenians, destroy infrastructure and take the land. No one will do anything about it.

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Pilotom_7 t1_j1vtxrr wrote

Oh, So this is Russia making the Tough decisions for Armenia’s own good…

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Repulsive_Size_849 t1_j1vzsq6 wrote

And surely once they are successful in using violent force to get their way, they will never do it again.

If only there was a Neville Chamberlain in Armenia who could understand the value of appeasement.

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fIreballchamp t1_j1w4qwt wrote

So why is NATO allowing Turkey to supply Azerbaijan with weapons and training. This is the problem. Not Russia.

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fIreballchamp t1_j1vv4q7 wrote

Yes, Russia is letting Armenia know if they don't allow access through their territory Russia will not help Armenia deal with the consequences.

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TrappedTraveler2587 t1_j1vxmro wrote

Literally, it makes no sense to reward violent behavior, rhetoric, and inhumanitarian behavior in the interest of ethnic cleansing as an excuse to allow the violation of Armenian Sovereignty.

Today it's a corridor, tomorrow it's equal use of Sevan lakes water resources, then access for a pipeline route, etc...

The law is clear. An agreement was already signed (no corridor language except for Lachin corridor) in Nov 2020 that ended the war. It was reaffirmed in jan 2021. This is simple, Russia wants a route to/from the meditarrean that has no international controls and to solidify its relationship with Azerbaijan while blackmailing Armenia into being its military outpost.

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fIreballchamp t1_j1w55ng wrote

So then maybe Turkey should stop supplying Azerbaijan with weapons and training. This isn't about Russia not wanting to cause problems there. This is about a NATO country, Turkey arming their buddies and training them to carry on a geopolitical goal of theirs. Russia doesn't want there to be bigger problems. Peace won't come unless USA and Europe tell Turkey that enough is enough. The only other option is Russia steps in and starts another war.

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TROPtastic t1_j1wizve wrote

>Armenia keeps getting beaten up by Azerbaijan and Russia wants to stop this.

Isn't the whole point of Russia's glorious CSTO to provide protection for its members? "An attack on one is an attack on all"? Seems like it would be very easy for Russia to permanently stop Azeri attacks on Armenia if Putin wasn't obsessed with subjugating Ukraine.

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ArmpitEchoLocation t1_j1w25tk wrote

> Look at a map. Azerbaijan needs access through Armenia to get to part of its country

Tough titties, it's called an exclave, an exclave that already has land access to Turkey.

> If Armenia blocks access

It's Armenia's sovereign territory....

You complain about Armenians perpetually living in what the Soviets decided to be Azerbaijan wanting a supply route to all that remains of Armenia, but expect a supply route (for what?) for Azeris living west of Armenia...in a fucking exclave.

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fIreballchamp t1_j1w3zf2 wrote

What's the alternative? Europe and USA don't care. Turkey, a NATO member is providing the weapons and training to the Azeri forces yet the OP is crying Russia. Russia is clearly busy at the moment and doesn't want to deal with this.

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dzhastin t1_j1z0wih wrote

So does the US just get to blast a path thorough British Columbia to connect Washington and Alaska? I’m trying to find your logic as to how exclaves should be handled.

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