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-codename11 t1_j1slxy1 wrote

Reply to comment by Vordeo in Beijing to distribute Pfizer antiviral drug as Covid wave strains health system by web_explorer

Can the buy vaccines from Pfizer or moderna if they wanted to? No idea how that works

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fgreen68 t1_j1sy12j wrote

Nope. I have friends in different parts of China and despite having access to personal high-end doctors they can't get Pfizer or Moderna despite trying for months. Most of them have had covid in the last month. Almost everyone at their firms has also had covid in the last 30 days. It's almost like they are speed-running it. Unfortunately, if you're over 65 and have some sort of issue you have a high chance of not making it. It is a shame how many grandparents have been lost recently. I've researched trying to ship them something from here but getting through customs is..... an issue.

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XTJ7 t1_j1t95s3 wrote

If I were more cynical I would suggest a correlation between a significantly weaker economy and the advantage of having a lot less mouths to feed that contribute little to said economy.

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Gothic90 t1_j1tk22d wrote

That is imo unlikely. For three years, not only are their narratives about protect the elderly, they also shifted more resources to the elderly than they should, to the point young people were asking "what about us", and began lying flat and not upholding the economy.

They likely just didn't have a plan whatsoever.

Youth of China were under tremendous pressure from news that the retirement funds hit new peaks despite bad economies, that covid treatment in Wuhan doesn't favor young people first, from TV show hosts and officials talking about youth should take low paying jobs to boost the economy, that housing prices should remain high to give incentives for youth to work harder, etc.

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ColtranezRain t1_j1tc84j wrote

CCP only allowed the homegrown Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines, and they’re only around 50% effective.

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Vordeo t1_j1sm3r1 wrote

I doubt the higher ups really need to worry about domestic Chinese laws. Or they pay someone who's smuggling them in.

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electricalphil t1_j1tg6ph wrote

They would buy it, but insisted on gaining mrna tech for free as part of the bargain, so Pfizer and moderna said no.

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