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Fiendsquatch t1_ixsq8mg wrote

I don't understand. A nun was kidnapped and the Pope allowed the funds to release her?? What's so wrong about this and why was the cardinal under scrutiny and stripped of job and title?

Anyone care to explain?

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neurochild t1_ixsxqtv wrote

Last paragraph of the article:

> Revelations of a secretly taped phone call and what Pope Francis knew about the Vatican’s financial transactions are just the latest in a long and complicated trial which centers on the Vatican’s purchase of a luxury building in London in which 10 defendants are accused of fraud and extortion.

So it seems (from this incomplete article) that the defendant, Becciu, is being investigated for some misuse of the Vatican's money (fraud and extortion). Since Francis fired Becciu in 2020 over this alleged misconduct, it may be that Francis and other Vatican higher-ups are trying to scapegoat Becciu, saying that Becciu's misuse of funds was unknown to Francis, who doesn't generally know the particulars of Vatican finances. If the Vatican is trying to scapegoat Becciu like this, Becciu could try to use this secret recording to prove that Francis does generally know about Vatican finances and therefore probably would have known about Becciu's alleged misconduct. Such a finding could be pretty bad for the Vatican.

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fakerjohn t1_ixtafqf wrote

Really? That would be bad for the Vatican versus everything else we’ve heard the last … I dunno 50(?) years?

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hotrthanhoochezcooch t1_ixu12ml wrote

Honestly once you’ve actively covered up systemic child rape idk how you devolve from that. Oh I suppose it’s misappropriating funds.

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chadenright t1_ixtcgn5 wrote

Peasant kids losing their virginity to those in power at a young age is neither novel nor alarming...to those in power.

On the other hand, fraud and extortion by the Vatican against the wealthy and politically connected would absolutely provoke a policy change.

Having read the article, the recorded phonecall basically amounts to the ex-VP of finance asking the CEO, "Do you remember that I asked you to approve a budget," and the CEO going, "I recall something about a budget, please submit any requests for approval in writing."

Hardly damning of the pope, and a very very thin defense when the VP is arguing that "The CEO approved all of the illegal things I did because he approved of the budget for them."

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neurochild t1_ixth5g8 wrote

> Peasant kids losing their virginity to those in power at a young age

this is called child rape

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algun_de_torpedad t1_ixueuua wrote

If the Vatican's defense is that the Pope has nothing to do with financial stuff, then has him talking about financial stuff, then it's certainly something noteworthy.

Of course having someone sitting there recording the conversation doesn't make you think it was a natural conversation, and the Pope could have easily been taken aback over the questions and just didn't want to be rude by saying "bitch, what you talking about?" (that's how the Pope talks).

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algun_de_torpedad t1_ixueo45 wrote

The law is actually pretty serious when it comes to money.

Those kids they raped, the nuns they kept as sex slaves, the unwed mothers they tortured and raped.......meh.

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gandalf_el_brown t1_ixv36ub wrote

To the wealthy class, money has always been more important than human life

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EatsFiber2RedditMore t1_ixtera8 wrote

Or, Or, here's a wild idea he was committing fraud and extortion against the Vatican and that's why he was tossed on his ass.

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LoopyMcGoopin t1_ixswfwc wrote

As if the Catholic church has never been up to any evil shit.

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EastBoxerToo t1_ixswz9t wrote

The Catholic Church has no problem with being evil. It's kind of their whole identity these days.

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RobMuldoonsWight t1_ixt3p6l wrote

These days?. I can't imagine the thinking that the Catholic Church is worse now days than at any other point in history.

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chadenright t1_ixtf3xb wrote

It's more about paying a $350,000 consulting fee to the company for them to hand over a $500,000 ransom, I think.

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dontstabpeople42069 t1_ixy02w9 wrote

You don’t trick a bunch of people into thinking you are one step removed from god without being a little deceptive

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