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monkeygoneape t1_iy4f3d0 wrote

As important as their position is, a nato base in Helsinki basically turns st Petersburg into a front line

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jubza t1_iy4fiw8 wrote

If you're focus is on Russia then yes it's quite important but still not as important as holding the Black Sea.

Plus, Turkey is the entry point to Africa and Asia

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monkeygoneape t1_iy4g31k wrote

Like I said, wasn't downplaying turkey's geographical location, but with Russia being the aggressor at the moment, that does make them the bigger threat at the moment so being able to be in striking distance of one of their most important urban centres shouldn't be downplayed either, and doesn't the Suez kind of negate the black sea if we're talking shipping specifically?

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