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mrObelixfromgaul t1_iy4lu9e wrote

I will call Turkey the right way only if it allows Finland and Sweden with nato. Other wise it is going to be 🦃

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thermalhugger t1_iy5kjr4 wrote

Right way?

No country can force another country's language.

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Much_Chipmunk4230 t1_iy5lkwr wrote

Dude, this is reddit.

Your name is now Steve, this is what I will call you and you can’t do jack shit, Steve.

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myles_cassidy t1_iy6bn7u wrote

Countries should be able to choose what they want to be called

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suomikim t1_iy7oil8 wrote

Suomi is Suomi. And all y'all idiots call us Finland.

So no... other languages and countries pick what name they want to call another country. And there's not much anything Finland or anyone else can do about it.

(Obtw... in revenge, we've chosen our own names for all the rest of y'all. So:

Germany....................Saksa

France........................Ranska

Greece.......................Kreikka

United States............Yhdysvallat

Sweden....................Routsi

And we're not changing them back until all y'all call us by our rightful name: Suomi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

/this post written under the influence of salmiakki infused Finlandia vodka :P

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Lurkinforfun702 t1_iy4khob wrote

Why is Turkey the only word in Turkish while the rest of the sentence is in English?

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Buff_Dodo t1_iy4p1yp wrote

Because the country formerly known as Turkey asked the world to use the Turkish name even when talking about the country in English. They don't want to share their name with a fat bird.

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Santos_L_Halper_II t1_iy700kx wrote

I think the world should politely but firmly respond with “no, we’re not going to do that.”

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stillestwaters t1_iy4qig0 wrote

Didn’t Turkey declare that was the proper way to spell it now? Just because I can’t be bothered to do it doesn’t mean we can’t respect them spelling their nation how they want.

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CallMeLittleHardDad t1_iy4xlx6 wrote

I can, since it's weird to single out one country to suddenly start spelling in a bizarre new way for no real reason.

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who_even_reads_this t1_iy57oyc wrote

Côte d'Ivoire have requested the same, so not without precedent. I think most still say Ivory Coast or Turkey though

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stillestwaters t1_iy51oht wrote

I mean it’s their country and their government; I don’t think it matters either way how we spell it. If they want to spell it differently then why should we care?

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c0224v2609 t1_iy5k94h wrote

Well, okay then. From now on, I want Finland to be called Suomi and Sweden Sverige. And while we’re at it, Greenland will from now on be referred to by its Greenlandic name Kalaallit Nunaat.

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TROPtastic t1_iy60u8o wrote

If that was the official position of Finland and Sweden's governments, that would happen quickly enough.

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stillestwaters t1_iy6j009 wrote

Sure, if Finland, Sweden, and Greenland wanted that - then why would it be a problem? I doubt most people would abide by it, but why would anyone care what they call themselves?

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Divinate_ME t1_iy49374 wrote

Reminder that when I as a Kraut am forced to call Weißrussland Belarus instead, it's perfectly fine to expect from Anglos to use the term Türkiye instead of Turkey.

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Richard7666 t1_iy4t91u wrote

In English you'd be expected to call it Belarus. In English you'd be expected to call Turkey/Türkiye Turkey.

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itsFelbourne t1_iy49wi0 wrote

Begging is getting to be Turkey's primary pastime eh?

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war_story_guy t1_iy522jb wrote

Gonna be back peddling soon if they try and extort them.

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BusinessTour8371 t1_iy54s08 wrote

"How many Kurds would you be ok with us murdering without you saying a word?"

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Livio88 t1_iy8f945 wrote

Why would they ask permission from two Scandinavian countries for that? Even the US can’t say shit about it.

And it seems like there’s millions of middle class Kurds living in Turkey and they’re also serving in the turkish military. No one’s buying the narrative that it’s just Turks against Kurds as a monolith.

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h8newslettersm8 t1_iy6uk7w wrote

Your false narrative is disgusting. Türkiye's biggest metropolitan city İstanbul is home to 2 million Kurds, how would even this country be stable if it were killing Kurds based on their ethnicity? For the last fucking time it is Turkish Armed Forces vs PKK and affiliated groups not Turks vs Kurds. I am a Turk and my wife is a Kurd and our children, if we decide to make babies, will be mixed. What the fuck are you talking about? These Reddit woke simpletons who know nothing about Anatolia really get on my nerves.

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BusinessTour8371 t1_iy6z4hv wrote

> how would even this country be stable

It isn't

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TerpenesByMS t1_iy7id5s wrote

This example is nuts and i'm only using the names for the example, no shade intended, bear with me:

Imagine that in America, Presbyterian churches in New England were also a giant communist mafia that killed cops and civilians and blew stuff up, while running scammy businesses everywhere. Factor in that a mostly-friendly country just gave their Canadian counterparts a big heap of guns and grenades to fight against the Westboro Baptist Church neo-crusader extremists that were beheading people in now-lawless and war-torn Canada, and those guns are trading hands with the (fictional) Presbyterian mafia who are ramping up the violence and threats.

Now change Presbyterians to PKK, WBC to ISIS, Canada to Syria, and America is Turkiye. This is what Turkiye is dealing with, in a weird metaphorical nutshell.

Seriously, stable or not, Reddit needs to figure out how actually tolerant most of Turkiye's citizens are, it's tiring seeing all the uneducated vitriol.

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Tussen3tot20tekens t1_iy41cde wrote

By just reading the title you can tell OP is Turkish. Because that’s not how you spell Turkey in English.

Edit. TIL the was a name change in May 2022. Sorry I was not yet aware of this. And by OP I thought I was referencing to the article, by the same title.

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Zhukov-74 OP t1_iy46zhd wrote

>By just reading the title you can tell OP is Turkish

I am afraid you are wrong.

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Matthiey t1_iy4pbys wrote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey

They have officially changed their name to "Turkiye" or the "Republic of Turkiye" about a year or two ago. They are strongly pushing other countries to refer to them as such.

Yes, I am aware that the wiki article says "Turkey" in the headline.

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havok0159 t1_iy4xorv wrote

They can ask all they want. You can't reasonably expect people speaking about your country in English to start using letters not present in English. You won't see me asking people to write România and not Romania even though they sound quite different and would spare us a lot of misidentification issues with the Romani (which btw is a far worse problem than being associated with a bird).

Take a more recent example with Kyiv/Kiev. Imagine if instead of Kyiv, Ukrainians would have been asking us to call it Київ.

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Matthiey t1_iy52e8m wrote

Every letter is available to you: T U R K I Y E. You don't need the accents or dots that aren't available in english. In fact that is how it is written at the UN.

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suomikim t1_iy7p2ex wrote

so they really don't mind if i don't use the u with two dots over it? tbh, that makes it fall from 'are you completely serious" to... oh, Turkiye? Okay, no problem.

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Tussen3tot20tekens t1_iy4qdn3 wrote

If you read the whole article it states that the UN complied with the change at their request in may 2022. (And that newspaper is a Tükiyeish? Government supported news outlet.

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[deleted] t1_iy42zvt wrote

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Loltty t1_iy43j7t wrote

But Turkey fits so well! Their president looks like a Turkey, and even have the same intelligence as one!

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WorldsBestPapa t1_iy4bexd wrote

The name of the country in Turkish has changed. Do you see people in the Anglo sphere calling Germany Deutschland ? No, because Germany is the English work for Deutschland. Turkey is the English word you daft idiot. I’m really not sure why redditors have such a hard on for the Turkey name change.

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Superbassio t1_iy4l32c wrote

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/2/un-registers-turkiye-as-new-country-name-for-turkey

Pretty sure Türkiye has always been the Turkish name. It is now also the English official name. I'm not sure why redditors have such a hard time using Google.

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mrObelixfromgaul t1_iy4mgcx wrote

Ah don't worry, as a citizen of the Netherlands we know what you going through. Perhaps if el presedente will changes his mind over Finland and Sweden we could perhaps tember it correctly

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WorldsBestPapa t1_iy5aw9q wrote

It is the official English name…according to Turkey - which has no bearing whatsoever on how English speakers use the language.

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autotldr t1_iy3metd wrote

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 77%. (I'm a bot)

> Türkiye, Sweden, Finland to discuss NATO bids in Bucharest.

> "We will meet with Sweden and Finland's foreign ministers tomorrow in Bucharest under a trilateral format," Çavu?o?lu said Monday as he spoke to a group of reporters after a joint press conference with his Turkmen counterpart in Ankara, private Turkish broadcaster NTV reported.

> "Sweden and Finland are yet to take concrete steps under the trilateral memorandum," the minister said Monday, noting that Sweden especially needs to make more of an effort to implement its promises.

Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Sweden^#1 Türkiye^#2 Finland^#3 Minister^#4 memorandum^#5

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[deleted] t1_iy3mklf wrote

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jubza t1_iy3nm91 wrote

Türkiye is far more important than the other two combined

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monkeygoneape t1_iy4f3d0 wrote

As important as their position is, a nato base in Helsinki basically turns st Petersburg into a front line

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jubza t1_iy4fiw8 wrote

If you're focus is on Russia then yes it's quite important but still not as important as holding the Black Sea.

Plus, Turkey is the entry point to Africa and Asia

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monkeygoneape t1_iy4g31k wrote

Like I said, wasn't downplaying turkey's geographical location, but with Russia being the aggressor at the moment, that does make them the bigger threat at the moment so being able to be in striking distance of one of their most important urban centres shouldn't be downplayed either, and doesn't the Suez kind of negate the black sea if we're talking shipping specifically?

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PublicFurryAccount t1_iy44yjt wrote

Probably not, no.

Controlling entrance to the Black Sea hasn't really been relevant since the 1980s because the Aegean is just as much a shooting gallery for modern ASMs and Turkey's ability to actually accomplish that control is questionable against any actual adversary, including Russia.

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DasKleineFerkell t1_iy3o154 wrote

Strategically speaking, turkeys only value is a border to Syria (which they've been abusing) amd the Bosporus...

Both easy problems to solve... erdogan isn't worth it...

In light of revolts in Iran and china... if I was emperor erdogan I would be worried

Edit , edit... unless you're referring to Turkeys textile business.... you can replace e that ez as pie

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tilker17 t1_iy3p970 wrote

This might be the shallowest politic analysis I've seen for a while.

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Copeshit t1_iy448z1 wrote

> Strategically speaking, turkeys only value is a border to Syria

redditors lmao

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CarpeNoctome t1_iy3zr0j wrote

you seem to be oblivious to the fact that turkey controls the most strategic city in the world

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majorelan t1_iy5qy6m wrote

How long before someone decides to start a Transatlantic Defence Agreement that looks remarkably like NATO only with Sweden and Finland as members instead of Turkey and Hungary?

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TROPtastic t1_iy610np wrote

A long time, considering that Turkey is very valuable geopolitically. Probably longer than Erdogan will remain in power.

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skidoo1033 t1_iy6r7oh wrote

How about we just boot Turkey out and add Sweden and Finland?

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ExplosiveDiarrhetic t1_iy72wu8 wrote

However justified that might be, turkey is a major regional power and have the keys to the black sea

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CuntWeasel t1_iy7ttfo wrote

That’s not how it works though, for several reasons.

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Professional_Day2626 t1_iy78r5m wrote

I belive that the terror in turk because of they did not trust erdogan to lead their country since the inflation is going to the moon, but erdogan belive that he might be a prophet

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colonel_itchyballs t1_iy54vs1 wrote

demand visa free please I want to go to uppsala and give my respect to odin

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