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Paradoxmetroid t1_iycqxcp wrote

Reply to comment by Standard_Mammoth1682 in EU Commission proposes blocking billions in funds to Hungary by Bald-Eagle619

Agreed. It's sad to see.

Hungarians are mostly indifferent and like him because he essentially bribed the whole country with various handouts through the height of covid.

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Got_No_Situation t1_iycykiy wrote

Hungarians mostly don't like him, but 12 years is enough time to become indifferent when nothing you've done to protest the hostile overtake of your country ended up moving the needle at all.

There isn't nearly enough emphasis placed on the fact that an EU Member State was politically and judicially dismantled by the Russians and is not acting in accordance with any European's values (including their voters).

Note that the election in April of this year, most of their voters (which is still less than 50%) believed that voting "no" would immediately result in them being sent to war. In addition to that, the official election ballots included a yes/no question suggesting that forced gender reassignment for children will be made legal if the party loses the vote.

We are not a nation that has any love for Russia. Of the countries that don't share a border with them, we are probably the ones with the most historical, cultural and generational loss due to Russia. As long as the misinformation machine and hostile judiciary are in place, our elections don't represent anything our populace actually believes.

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hawara160421 t1_iye3rai wrote

>Note that the election in April of this year, most of their voters (which is still less than 50%) believed that voting "no" would immediately result in them being sent to war.

Wait, what? What's the story, here?

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Tromort77 t1_iyehccb wrote

The main opponent said that we have to support NATO and our allies as much as possible and their propaganda machine translated it as it's either FIDESZ or your sons will be sent to the fronts. Their propaganda machine is immense and they can create any narrative.

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higgs8 t1_iyejt6h wrote

As the war broke out, Orbán was quick to put up election posters everywhere with his face saying "Let's preserve Hungary's security and safety", and others with opposition leaders claiming they are "Dangerous". As well as stories about how the opposition wants war and that Fidesz is the only party who can prevent it. With the opposition having no money for posters and being banned from television altogether (since all TV is state-run), there was no way for them to refute the claims.

Sure, people could in theory inform themselves on the internet, but keep in mind that the internet is only useful to people who have been educated to have critical thinking. Most people in Hungary are too poor to make effective use of information online. They just watch TV and that's it.

It makes no sense whatsoever. But the majority of Hungary's territory is slums with people living in such poverty that their only source of information are the posters and the state-run TV channels. They may not have running water but they have endless propaganda. Would you vote for the people telling you that war is bad? Or the "others" who you've never really heard of and who apparently want some kind of war. Also they want transexuals and transvestites to convince your kids about getting gender reassignment surgery. I'm not kidding. There was an actual referendum about whether or not you want your kids to get gender reassignment surgery, on the same day as the election, with the clear implication that the government is asking these questions to protect you from such terrible things. In reality, the referendum was invalid due to low participation. But those who answered felt like they are in real danger, and they obviously voted for the government.

Oh, also they get 5000 HUF if they vote for Fidesz (source: I was one of the many commissioned by the OSCE to document election fraud on election day), which is like 2 packs of cigarettes. Who in their right mind would say no to that?

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lokicramer t1_iyf48vq wrote

Outside the major cities most people like him.

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Mohreb t1_iydyv4a wrote

The bribe of people begun by legalizing home-brew alcohol. But the main issue is not that. From 10 million Hungarians 2 million works and lives abroad. And they live there because they disagree with the ongoing politics. Most because it is easier to go and live then stay and fight it. Others because you can't make a living if you politizies in Hungary. There were some claims of cheating elections, but if 2 million opposition can't even (practically) vote. It is not even an issue.

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