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IndicationLazy4713 t1_iy955rg wrote

The west has two choices ...surrender to Russia or fight Russia...

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hannibal_fett t1_iy9d8cg wrote

Pretty clear which option was chosen.

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Darkmetroidz t1_iy9ttgm wrote

We're fighting Russia with American dollars instead of American lives.

It will probably stay that way unless the conflict goes nuclear.

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oregon_assassin t1_iyai9se wrote

Can we get some European money in the pot?

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lolomfgkthxbai t1_iyannsz wrote

Working on it:

> European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen announced that the EU is set to provide Ukraine with up to €18 billion in financial assistance throughout 2023 to cover the basic budgetary needs of the war-torn country.

> "It is very important for Ukraine to have a predictable and stable flow of income," von der Leyen said at the end of two-day meeting of EU leaders in Brussels.

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oregon_assassin t1_iyanz2o wrote

18 billion honestly seems low I think we granted like 40 billion not that long ago

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lolomfgkthxbai t1_iyaoe8q wrote

It’s difficult to push things through at the EU level, countries like Hungary have veto power. Member states are also giving direct support in form of money and weapons.

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Krabbypatty_thief t1_iybd708 wrote

Not only that, its actually cheaper than using american lives too. About 200 million dollars per day cheaper

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Old_Fart_1948 t1_iyaf6vp wrote

Everyone hates Putin.

No matter who wins or loses, Russia has lost all credibility with the rest of the world.

The only way to fix this would be for the Russians to get rid of Putin.

And they're not gonna do it until things get really uncomfortable for Russians.

Anything that will make Russians more uncomfortable is good.

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WonderWeasel42 t1_iycpnj4 wrote

>The only way to fix this would be for the Russians to get rid of Putin.

The challenge is: what (who) comes next? Where does China play into that power vacuum via instruments of national (soft) power?

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