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SaltyNefariousness60 t1_iu70e9u wrote

No. China are not the enemy of the west. Please give me an example of how they have acted in a way to show they are the enemy. Example please

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gigsyyy t1_iu71d76 wrote

Genocide.

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Augenglubscher t1_iu82uu2 wrote

The thing that the US supports in Yemen? Seems like they could be great buddies with China.

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SaltyNefariousness60 t1_iu71xkk wrote

Nope. That's bs. There was no genocide. And that still doesn't make China an enemy of the west even if true. We do business with countries worse than China all the time. We ignored claims of genocide when we signed up for Chinese involvement in uk nuclear

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faithOver t1_iu720eg wrote

I mean, this is a little silly. This isn’t 2002. Its 2022. I’m not particularly interested in debating if water is wet.

One word; Uyghurs. Doing business with China in 2022 is doing business with Hitler and Nazi Germany.

No need to list any more reasons, though plenty exist.

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SaltyNefariousness60 t1_iu73w49 wrote

China have opened the doors to an investigation of the Uyghurs claims made by those who wish to slow China's progress. But I guess that's silly to actually look into the facts. You're right, it's probably best just to ignore that and believe what certain, albeit proven fake news outlets, tell us to believe. The fact we did business with China after those claims were made, ignoring them, shouldn't be taken into consideration

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SaltyNefariousness60 t1_iu746x1 wrote

Uyghur doesn't make China an enemy of the west though. And we're doing business with China still

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faithOver t1_iu754s9 wrote

Right. And IBM did business with the Nazis. Hows that look in hindsight?

But since you’re such an ardent China supporter how about you explain;

  • Disregard to the HK agreement
  • Taiwan
  • Covid response; repatriation of medical supply and delayed alert to WHO and international community
  • Currency manipulation
  • Unreciprocated trade agreements
  • Fentanyl
  • Overfishing banned fisheries
  • Chinese police stations on sovereign country soil
  • Canada specific: Two Michaels

And more that I cant recall in 30 seconds.

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SaltyNefariousness60 t1_iu7615w wrote

Non of that list makes China an enemy. I could argue each point individually. But meh. Not one point there makes them the enemy. As for trading with a country that has been accused of genocide, well, that argument is on moral grounds. Morality and differences does not make them the enemy.

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faithOver t1_iu76nzj wrote

This has been a very amusing conversation.

So how does it work? Do you get paid per post? How much of the content that you engage with do you actually care about?

Curious how it all actually works. We all have to eat, so Im not even faulting you.

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SaltyNefariousness60 t1_iu76ih3 wrote

That list is pathetic

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faithOver t1_iu76xvs wrote

Nearly as pathetic as China. But not quite.

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SaltyNefariousness60 t1_iu778y3 wrote

You seem like a smart cookie. Broaden your reading.

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faithOver t1_iu77t0c wrote

Cheers. I hope you escape whatever hell is forced you to speak thoughts not of your own. Hope you’re able to live free and prosper stranger.

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SaltyNefariousness60 t1_iu78aiw wrote

Seriously though, broaden your reading

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faithOver t1_iu78m1i wrote

Cite me a source worth exploring.

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SaltyNefariousness60 t1_iu79iak wrote

All news sources. I'm currently, like right now, researching how much USA owes China. It's 1.08 trillion. There's no particular news source. I read them all for things that are of interest

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