xanas263 t1_iuh2t5q wrote on October 31, 2022 at 7:57 AM

>The COP conferences, she added, "are not really meant to change the whole system", but instead encourage gradual progress.

She's not wrong and depending on who you ask that is a good thing.

As some who works within the climate domain you don't need to learn a lot about the problem to start to see that the only real solution would be to change the whole system from the ground up.

The elephant in the room is that a lot of people on the planet like the current system and the benefits it gives them. Yes it's not perfect, there are a lot of problems with it and a lot of people that are fucked over by it, but it still benefits a large proportion of people and I'm not talking about the billionaires and millionaires. A lot of people reading this comment actively benefit from the system.

While a lot of people say that they are all for sustainable living I still think the true level of reduction that would need to take place to actually live sustainably with the planet is highly unpopular by the masses. Especially when the climate crisis still feels like a very far away problem for the people and countries who need to start reducing the most.

FarawayFairways t1_iuhbx8f wrote on October 31, 2022 at 10:16 AM

It takes some people decades to discover what Greta has concluded at the age 20 (and some never do, because they earn little living bouncing between global fountainheads talking to each other)

I'm inclined the quote Jean Claude Juncker when discussing the Eurobond crisis

> We all know what needs to be done. It's just that no one has worked out how to do it and still win an election

This goes to heart of the problem. Whereas people will routinely answer opinion polls positively when it comes to the environment, what they really mean is that they're in favour of everyone other than me making a more concerted effort

2012Jesusdies t1_iuhfpkx wrote on October 31, 2022 at 11:05 AM

Yes, I wholeheartedly agree, it's easy to say you support radical green policies on reddit, but it's gonna be expensive af. All that externality costs that were distributed along all of humanity, plantlife and even the climate are now gonna come crashing down on you. People are already bitching about carbon taxes.