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Krabban t1_iu2jein wrote

He may be 'leftist' but I have no doubt that he'll be as corrupt as every other Brazilian politician. Still marginally better than Bolsonaro I suppose, although that's not a high bar.

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Not2creativeHere t1_iu2jpdw wrote

I believe he was funneling CCP money through a chain of car washes he owned. So yes, it does appear to be a corrupt individual.

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Zormac t1_iu2y1mg wrote

He is known to be corrupt. He was president for two terms, stole people's money and was thrown in jail during Operation Car Wash. Somehow his lawyers got him free and now he's running for a third term. If he wins, he will be the second longest running president in Brazilian history, after Getúlio Vargas (18.5 years).

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OrderlyPanic t1_iu3ds91 wrote

Operation Car Wash was 100% discredited as politicized - including the lead prosecutors colluding with Judges - and his case specifically was a sham. That is why he's free.

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GOD_oy t1_iu3kyhw wrote

no, he's free because they magically figured out that the operation shouldn't be in Curitiba, but in another place. Thats the reason they said. They literally couldn't use any proof the discredit the car wash since telegrams message that says about nothing and were taken by a hacker cant be used as proof.

we all know that the supreme court became heavily politized, for me its rather strange people that hates Eduardo Cunha and Renan Calheiros siding with their same interests simply because they like a personality.

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psholln t1_iu48vq6 wrote

There were two Habeas Corpus. One regarding the partiality of Moro and one regarding the territorial competence of the 13th Federal Court of Curitiba. The second one was judged first, and lead to the release of Lula. However, the second one was also judged to be in the right and the partiality of Moro was recognized by the Supreme Court

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GOD_oy t1_iu3kjg3 wrote

his party leaded the 2 biggest corruption scandals in brazilian history when in power (only one wasnt enough to get hid of them, now people want them back).

he was the president during part of both scandals, his successor Dilma was the president when the second one was found.

i mean, i usually null my vote, but i still prefer the forest burners and no vacs than a "cleptocrat" (as said by a supreme court minister)

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Synchrotr0n t1_iu4l69h wrote

First of all, the bribing of congressmen in exchange for favorable vote for legislation is a form of corruption inherent of the Brazilian congress, not of the president itself. It wasn't invented by neither Lula or Bolsonaro, but both took part of it because if they didn't they could easily get impeached by the congress over "technicalities", which is exactly what happened with Dilma Rousseff who had a more hardline approach against corruption.

Having said that, the amount of money that Lula's government spent on this scheme pales in comparison to what Bolsonaro did by a order of magnitude, aside from the type of legislation that Bolsonaro bought from congress that only favored the economical elite in the country in detriment of the poor and the middle class.

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GOD_oy t1_iu60buj wrote

thats pretty much how i see it, yes.

im not a supporter from any side, i just hate one more than the other.

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Hikorijas t1_iu50rvd wrote

The biggest corruption scandal in Brazil is being uncovered right now thanks to Bolsonaro's orçamento secreto.

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GOD_oy t1_iu602tm wrote

which receive massive support from PT, and passed with the president's veto

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Hikorijas t1_iu67hxj wrote

Not true. He vetoed the first time, possibly to not look complicit, and didn't the second time, and the congressmen who were in favour of it weren't from PT but instead from Bolsonaro's party and his allies.

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