Cobbertson t1_iu38nmx wrote
Reply to comment by Cherios_Are_My_Shit in (Canada) House of Commons unanimously agrees to describe residential schools as genocide by EdithDich
Why bother comparing them? Genocide happened in the past and happens to this day in various countries. All we can do is acknowledge it happened, stop it when it's going on, and try to prevent it from happening again. People do twisted shit, and good people have to find out and do whatever is needed at any given moment to promote fairness and inclusivity whenever possible
Cherios_Are_My_Shit t1_iu49dhq wrote
>Why bother comparing them?
because "those who don't learn about history are doomed to repeat it" and comparing them is our moral obligation.
>All we can do is acknowledge it happened, stop it when it's going on, and try to prevent it from happening again.
comparing and contrasting is step one. you can't do any of that other stuff if the average person doesn't even really understand what "it" even is.
not gonna sugarcoat it, either i missed the point of your comment or it was a really dumb thing to say. i read it like saying, "what's the point in exercising and dieting? all we can do is try to be in the best shape we can and live a healthy life." i feel like you asked why we should do something and then listed the reasons we should do it.
Redbanabandana t1_iu4pz6u wrote
Residential schools: up to around 4,100 deaths over 120 years with most happening before 1950's and mostly from things like lack of care, disease outbreaks (typhoid and tuberculosis) and fires. This represents about 5% of the people that attended the residential schools. The intent of those schools were to assimilate the children into western culture (presumably alive).
Holocaust: 6 million deaths over 4 years by systematic mass murders through nerve gas, combustion chambers and executions. The intent was to kill all Jews. Up to two thirds of the entire Europeen population of Jews were murdered.
People downvoting facts they don't like, lol
xyon21 t1_iu4sb07 wrote
Cultural genocide is still genocide. The schools were not meant to physically eradicate first nations people, but they were explicitly created and operated with the intent of eradicating first nations peoples as a cultural group.
Redbanabandana t1_iu4tp7a wrote
> Cultural genocide is still genocide
By name, not by definition
Cherios_Are_My_Shit t1_iu5890f wrote
>The definition contained in Article II of the Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part.
destruction of language or literature, banning of clothing or foods, rules against public congregation have all been ruled genocide by the UN.
saying cultural genocide isn't genocide is like saying oral rape isn't rape
Redbanabandana t1_iu5kcaz wrote
Putting cultural genocide on the same level as genocide is like saying an unwanted kiss on the cheek is the same as being forcibly penetrated by a chainsaw
>The definition contained in Article II of the Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part.
The bolded part is pretty important.
>destruction of language or literature, banning of clothing or foods, rules against public congregation have all been ruled genocide by the UN.
Oh, like during the pandemic? TIL I was genocided according to the UN
BTW, the convention linked in the article makes no mention of cultural genocide or what that could mean so...
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