TocTheElder t1_jcuxi7t wrote
Reply to comment by Crimbobimbobippitybo in British man deported to Jamaica launches action against Home Office | Richard Wallace wrongly classed as Jamaican and deported after serving murder sentence, despite having been born in London by kwentongskyblue
That's a long way of saying "I don't believe in rehabilitation or spent convictions."
EDIT: I've never seen someone who is right resort to blocking people. Seems like an easy way to shut down conversation without having to justify your position.
>The whole Windrush Scandal was a shameful moment in our history, but this guy has to be the least sympathetic human in the entire story.
But, therefore what?
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jimicus t1_jcxh70t wrote
Legally, there's no such thing as a spent conviction as far as this chap's concerned. He committed murder.
However - big "however" - most killers aren't as dangerous to society at large as you'd believe.
More often than not, it's a spur-of-the-moment, "oh my god what have I done?" thing which they never repeat when they get out.
The unrepentant serial killers of this world are relatively rare.
IsoNeko t1_jcxl3zr wrote
This wasn't a spur of the moment, it was a robbery turned murder with a gun. I of course don't need to explain the difficulties in getting a firearm in the UK, but it's clear this wasn't just something that 'happened'.
He then snuck into the back of a fast food place, took a hostage while robbing them of money/jewellery, and then shot a guy in the head twice.
Reformed or not, 19+2 years in prison is still 19+2+x more years than the murdered man had.
literorrery t1_jcv2p0b wrote
I block right-wing trolls all the time. Some positions shouldn't be put up for debate.
theboredforeigner t1_jcx074h wrote
“Criminals are always criminals, even if they serve their time” is a very right-wing position which is often accompanied by racism and other equally bigoted fuckery.
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SuteSnute t1_jcvmwgt wrote
Blocking people on Reddit is literally fascism? You clowns get more and more absurd with your reaches by the day.
Crimbobimbobippitybo t1_jcuxnqi wrote
No, if that's what I meant then I would have said that; don't try to justify your straw man by pretending you're reading between the lines.
Edit: > But, therefore what?
But therefore he's the least sympathetic victim of the Windrush scandal. If you need more help understanding, I'd start with this.
TocTheElder t1_jcuzf4g wrote
Why would this guy need to be sympathetic? He is British, convicted murderer or not. Do you think we should be deporting British citizens because they were convicted of a crime? Because that's worked out so well in the past... You trying to throw caveats in there to justify his deportation is just fucking bizarre.
Bangarangadanahang t1_jcv62j4 wrote
>Do you think we should be deporting British citizens because they were convicted of a crime? Because that's worked out so well in the past...
Well we got Australia that way and I quite like the Australians generally. So not all bad I guess.
Crimbobimbobippitybo t1_jcuzixc wrote
I didn't try to justify his deportation, you're just so desperate for a fight or some worthless clout that you're pretending I did.
Wyrmalla t1_jcv76ol wrote
The article makes this man out to be a model prisoner, and states the hardships he went through in his time he was stuck in Jamaica. Nothing in the article is a flag justifies you saying this man is the "least sympathetic human in the entire story".
The other poster's relevant then as it seems the only basis you have for criticising this man is that he served a sentence on a murder charge. That poster then is justified in saying that your criticism runs contrary to concepts like rehabilitation.
Or is there some other reason you think this man is somehow the bad guy in this story?
Crimbobimbobippitybo t1_jcv7gtg wrote
> Or is there some other reason you think this man is somehow the bad guy in this story?
I think being a murderer and having a resulting bit of ill fortune which was corrected makes him less sympathetic than others affected by the Windrush scandal.
Edit: The good old seagull... shit all over the place and then fly away block and run. You won't be missed.
Wyrmalla t1_jcv8ndl wrote
Right, so you confirm what the poster said - that your criticism is based on his previous conviction. That isn't them creating a strawman, its them just repeating what you said back to you and then you getting annoyed.
TocTheElder t1_jczht7v wrote
>I think being a murderer and having a resulting bit of ill fortune which was corrected makes him less sympathetic than others affected by the Windrush scandal.
So exactly what I said, then?
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