MetzgerWilli t1_je9j0n0 wrote on March 30, 2023 at 12:15 PM

Reply to comment by The_Humble_Frank in 'A win of epic proportions': World's highest court can set out countries' climate obligations after Vanuatu secures historic UN vote by lurker_bee

The current IPCC report has a scenario (the very low emissions one) that let's us reduce the global temperature long term (return to +1°C by 2100).

Not like that scenario is happening or anything close to it, but that would pretty much halting climate change.

The_Humble_Frank t1_jea1wlq wrote on March 30, 2023 at 2:43 PM

That's not halting it, that's slowing the rate.

_Svankensen_ t1_jeabhob wrote on March 30, 2023 at 3:50 PM

Nope, that's reversing it a bit. The consequences remain, but the warming slowly goes away.

The_Humble_Frank t1_jeaggac wrote on March 30, 2023 at 4:22 PM

Adding one to anything, does not make it less. the average global temperature heating at a lesser rate, does not mean warming goes away, it means its still getting warmer, just not as fast as it would at a higher rate.

I have actually worked with climate scientists, there is no accepted scenario, given technology that actually exists, where things get cooler.

_Svankensen_ t1_jeahaia wrote on March 30, 2023 at 4:28 PM

We hit +1°C in 2017. We are above that already. So, yes, going back to +1°C would indeed be reversing it a bit. And you got shared a scenario already. "I have worked with climate scientists" is the most pathetic appeal to authority I have seen. I am an environmental scientist. It doesn't give me authority to override facts or to make shit up.

The_Humble_Frank t1_jeana4k wrote on March 30, 2023 at 5:06 PM

And I'm going to trust the climate scientists I've worked with over someone claiming to be one on the internet.

_Svankensen_ t1_jeapsqb wrote on March 30, 2023 at 5:22 PM

Whut? I didn't say I was a climate scientist man. Those most likely studied physics. I said I am an environmental scientist. And as I said, I'm not asking you to trust me. What the other guy said is true.

>scenarios with very low and low GHG emissions and CO2 emissions declining to net zero around or after 2050, followed by varying levels of net negative CO2 emissions23 (SSP1-1.9 and SSP1-2.6), as illustrated in Figure SPM.4.

https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_SPM.pdf

As we all know, that is very unlikely. But hey, it's conceivable. Anyway, become an environmental activist. Don't give up. There's good reasons to fight.