The_Humble_Frank t1_je8yia3 wrote
Reply to comment by _Svankensen_ in 'A win of epic proportions': World's highest court can set out countries' climate obligations after Vanuatu secures historic UN vote by lurker_bee
No... we can't halt it. What gave you the idea that we could?
What we can do at this point is mitigate it. I'd use a car wreck analogy but that would still give the incorrect sense that it's over at some point. Mitigating it would be like the difference between turning the thermostat being turned up to 80 instead of 95.
MetzgerWilli t1_je9j0n0 wrote
The current IPCC report has a scenario (the very low emissions one) that let's us reduce the global temperature long term (return to +1°C by 2100).
Not like that scenario is happening or anything close to it, but that would pretty much halting climate change.
The_Humble_Frank t1_jea1wlq wrote
That's not halting it, that's slowing the rate.
_Svankensen_ t1_jeabhob wrote
Nope, that's reversing it a bit. The consequences remain, but the warming slowly goes away.
The_Humble_Frank t1_jeaggac wrote
Adding one to anything, does not make it less. the average global temperature heating at a lesser rate, does not mean warming goes away, it means its still getting warmer, just not as fast as it would at a higher rate.
I have actually worked with climate scientists, there is no accepted scenario, given technology that actually exists, where things get cooler.
_Svankensen_ t1_jeahaia wrote
We hit +1°C in 2017. We are above that already. So, yes, going back to +1°C would indeed be reversing it a bit. And you got shared a scenario already. "I have worked with climate scientists" is the most pathetic appeal to authority I have seen. I am an environmental scientist. It doesn't give me authority to override facts or to make shit up.
The_Humble_Frank t1_jeana4k wrote
And I'm going to trust the climate scientists I've worked with over someone claiming to be one on the internet.
_Svankensen_ t1_jeapsqb wrote
Whut? I didn't say I was a climate scientist man. Those most likely studied physics. I said I am an environmental scientist. And as I said, I'm not asking you to trust me. What the other guy said is true.
>scenarios with very low and low GHG emissions and CO2 emissions declining to net zero around or after 2050, followed by varying levels of net negative CO2 emissions23 (SSP1-1.9 and SSP1-2.6), as illustrated in Figure SPM.4.
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_SPM.pdf
As we all know, that is very unlikely. But hey, it's conceivable. Anyway, become an environmental activist. Don't give up. There's good reasons to fight.
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