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daniel_22sss t1_je1j8pj wrote

Reply to comment by Amerizilian in Ukraine needs more prosthetics clinicians as war toll mounts by Quantum_II

Oh, I'm sorry, I guess now we need to allow Russia to just conquer entire country and genocide its people because 20 years ago americans went into Iraq.

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soAsian t1_je1llir wrote

>20 years ago americans went into Iraq

and killed million+ people that did NOTHING to US. don't forget that part. it also rippled into ISIS, Syria, Afghan and turn the entire middle east into hell. million+ more people died as well but its brown people thus we don't care. that's rule of law

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ZhouDa t1_je2kugg wrote

The civil war killed those people, which was roughly half a million give or take 100K or so. The Bush administration was still responsible because of their careless invasion, but it's more of a case of negligent homicide rather than murder. When the Iraq invasion happened it sparked one of the one of the biggest worldwide protests ever seen, except people didn't know that because it wasn't covered. But that was twenty years ago, there is little we can do about that now. Even if Bush and Cheney is brought to the Hague (which would be awesome if it did happen), it won't bring back any of the dead in Iraq or change the political situation there. What we can change is what is happening in Ukraine now, where Russia is actively murdering Ukrainians in the name of imperialism. Which is what this article is about before you derailed into US history as if it has any relevance.

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DellowFelegate t1_je3fz07 wrote

LoL, you say that Russia is not accountable for its' own invasion because the West manipulated them, but America's responsible for downstream things like sectarian violence, al-Assad's actions, and ISIS starting up 11 years after the invasion. Which one of the two is it?

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Amerizilian t1_je1mbbu wrote

I never said that. I am just sick of American hypocrisy. It's like America condemning people for poor treatment of immigrants. Or Homosexuals. Or trans people. Or minorities.

I have many people I care about deeply who are Ukrainian and have been living through this asshole Putin's unprovoked, unnecessary genocide IN UKRAINE. They had the fucking Holodomor already, also caused by Russia (USSR). Enough is enough.

Путин хуйло

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ZhouDa t1_je2nrs2 wrote

America is not a single entity, and what you attributing to them isn't even a representative of the opinion of a majority of Americans (whom don't have equal democratic representation in the US government).

As I said in another comment here, the Bush administration's invasion of Iraq sparked one of the biggest protests in modern history and Bush would leave office as the least popular president since they started keeping track of public opinion. There is still a lot of injustice in the US, and everywhere you find it you also find Americans fighting against it as well.

We all have a couple of options here. We can make the Russian invasion of Ukraine about the US and it's ongoing fight against it's own injustices or just accept that Americans are highly valuable allies needed to help stop Russia in its tracks and talk about that, and leave the discussion of US politics to the politics subreddit.

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