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JSA790 t1_je3dq08 wrote

The sheer amount of vile hate India receives on reddit always surprises me. It's truly the nation and ethnicity everyone is allowed to be racist to. Atleast China is feared, hope India reaches the same place.

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Silent_Shadow05 t1_je3nkg8 wrote

Its mostly in the top level subs of reddit. The smaller ones hand out quick bans for racist comments. You just need to avoid these big subs.

And for those that's say its because of Ukraine War, nope. Its been going on since around 2014 atleast when I first started using reddit.

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ScaryShadowx t1_je4191y wrote

It's because a lot of the West still have a colonial attitude and it often comes out whenever a country gets too 'uppity' and no longer 'knows their place' - which according to a LOT of people on this sub is serving US geopolitical interests.

The hate always comes out whenever India does something in its own interest or according to its own ideals.

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TheHalfDeadCat t1_je4d5dg wrote

Go to r/space and search India or ISRO (India’s Space Program) you’ll find threads with bunch of deleted comments and the comments which are not removed would be about why is everyone so racist there.

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perrinlighteyes t1_je44ll9 wrote

I would argue that all these hateful bigots are already afraid of India's rise.

They are afraid that China and India will call the shots for the next century, that hurts their fragile ego.

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SirRabbott t1_je3rmp2 wrote

Seeing as how 1/6 of people alive on the planet live in india... I don't think it'll be much longer 👀

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Pale_Solution_5338 t1_je44t2l wrote

Probably because of the rampant issues India have with raping women and marrying kids. They also buy cheap oil from Russia. No wonder not many redditors are not liking India’s government much currently.

I don’t hate Indians they are lovely people that are generous with their time and know how to feed their guests but as a business I hate selling things to them.

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7sfx t1_je45zkr wrote

India has problems, so does every country on the earth. Doesn't mean that you can be racist against them. US had like 90 shootings in this year alone, highest of any other country. Does that mean that I can be racist against americans?

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Pale_Solution_5338 t1_je4931g wrote

What does racism have to do with that? I am not American and I am against gun violence but here we are. The important thing is the laws that the government enacts.

But kids, women and Russia is mostly what reddit is about currently so you have to understand the circumstances why India is not well seen at least on Reddit.

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No-Philosopher-8212 t1_je4er5v wrote

You're talking like every Indian man wants to grope literally every woman he meets.

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Pale_Solution_5338 t1_je6ycow wrote

Funny just found that post just now 😆

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/125n7ga/a_stampede_of_men_forcing_their_way_into_a_womens/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1

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No-Philosopher-8212 t1_je93qgn wrote

correlation =/= causation. Just because there is a a video about guys storming into a womens college in India, doesn't mean everyone in India does it.

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Pale_Solution_5338 t1_je99rks wrote

have you seen it happen anywhere else in the civilised world? Give me an example?

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No-Philosopher-8212 t1_je9beo0 wrote

The most recent data on rape is sadly 2010, but the US reports 15x more rapes than India does. Now, I know about unreported rape, different definitions etc., but if you think that is enough to make India the Rape country of the world (which is by stats is the US, 84k rapes per 100,000 ppl), Then you are grossly mistaken.

India has a problem of rape. We agree. In fact it is a huge problem caused by a small population. But generalizing an issue to every citizen of India when the issue is caused by the type of people we Indians hate is annoying, irritating and frankly racist. I have seen so many comments asking why Indians are always horny, Why do they grope girls so often etc. It not only angers me but hurts me. India, while not the safest country ever is not a public orgy country or something ridiculous.

all of my stats are taken from the wiki (which tends to be biased slightly against India, but that's just my opinion).

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Pale_Solution_5338 t1_je9ocna wrote

I’m talking about a crowd of boys forcing themselves in a school to grope girls.

Also India has a higher amount of unreported rape because it brings dishonour to the family and lower their chance of marriage so you can’t really use your statistics

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No-Philosopher-8212 t1_je9r2tg wrote

I understand the data point, but at maximum its gonna be like 3x or 4x more than the reported cases. not fucking 15x.

I'm talking data, your talking about a video on reddit which probably has either been taken out of context, or been re uploaded a year or two later. I'm giving you facts, reply to me with facts, not a reddit video.

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Pale_Solution_5338 t1_je4ikl6 wrote

that's pretty dumb. did he means that all American go out there and shoot citizens?

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No-Philosopher-8212 t1_je4nxqn wrote

No. He means that we all have problems, and rather than just using those problems, which are caused by a small % of the population of said country, to attack specific nationalities, you should spend your time more effectively.

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Pale_Solution_5338 t1_je4o8oa wrote

Oh but the main argument is India as a country helping Russia when they are invading another sovereign nation make it so that redditors don’t have a good opinion of the country.

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No-Philosopher-8212 t1_je4piqk wrote

India buying the oil is preventing the world from the horror of Insane gas prices, which would cause the poorer countries of the world to default a lot more.

What India wants is issues not related to India or any other country not affect the world in such a severe manner. And they are willing to do anything for that.

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Pale_Solution_5338 t1_je5bahv wrote

Do you make things up as you go?

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No-Philosopher-8212 t1_je5coqy wrote

Do you not try to at least search up the problem of having less supply in a already heavily demanded market?

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Pale_Solution_5338 t1_je6wbgf wrote

India is not preventing anything they also sell goods to Russia. Technically India is helping the regime. I am calling you out on making excuses to justify these actions with unsubstantiated claims. India government is just trying to profit of the war crisis to buy oil cheap and increase their GDP

At the end it’s fine but don’t expect Redditors in general who feel the pain of the Ukrainians, to appreciate these actions AND OP coming out to cry about it

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7sfx t1_je49f5t wrote

Read the comment that you replied to, then read your first comment, then read my comment.

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Pale_Solution_5338 t1_je4o12t wrote

Yeah I read them it’s not racism if it’s the truth and targeted at the Indian government as I said. I said the government inaction in regards to women’s rights and also collusion with Russia make sit so that there is a bias in reddit toward the country and not its people.

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Propagandasteak t1_je5b2uv wrote

Respect for trying to argue against Indians in heavily Indian dominated post. They are very patriotic and anti west/USA and sometimes pro russian

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Pale_Solution_5338 t1_je6yqjm wrote

It’s not a crime to be contrarian as long as you are courteous and try to be factual.

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Throwaway08080909070 t1_je1scmp wrote

Still a developing country though, right? Quarter trillion in exports, a space program and nuclear arsenal.

Developing.

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Reselects420 t1_je1wtde wrote

Look at GDP per capita. Iraq has GDP per capita twice that of India. You going to call Iraq a developed country?

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Throwaway08080909070 t1_je1x8va wrote

I would point out that per capita GDP is just one metric, not the whole.

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Reselects420 t1_je1xey8 wrote

GDP per capita is the main metric used to label a country “developing”. If you decide to ignore the most key metric, you’re choosing to be a moron.

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Throwaway08080909070 t1_je1xlxp wrote

I'm choosing to look at something other than India's astonishing capacity to produce new humans, such as their membership in a small club as a nuclear power with a space program, and VAST exports.

I'm also choosing not to insult you despite your need to descend to that level.

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Reselects420 t1_je1yimn wrote

You can’t just make up your own metric of judging whether a country is developed or developing, and decide that everyone should update their dictionary.

Pakistan is a nuclear power with a GDP per capita only a little lower than India’s. Is Pakistan a developed country?

Here, I’ll do one better. Iran. Higher GDP per capita than India, space program, possibly nuclear status soon. Are they a developed country? If not, is it just the figure of exports that matters, not the distribution of that figure?

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Throwaway08080909070 t1_je1yruy wrote

> Pakistan is a nuclear power with a GDP per capita only a little lower than India’s. Is Pakistan a developed country?

But they lack a space program and nearly a trillion in exports. And again "per capita" vs "total" is worth acknowledging, even if you reject its role in defining development.

> Here, I’ll do one better. Iran. Higher GDP per capita than India, space program, possibly nuclear status soon. Are they a developed country? If not, is it just the figure of exports that matters, not the distribution of that figure?

It's the combination of factors, as I've said from the start.

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meabandit t1_je30b8n wrote

Your definition might work for you but we can't all come ask you when we need to know right? So maybe let's use a common definition, mkay?

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brinjal_ke_kama t1_je3e1pk wrote

Look at the population numbers too dumbass.

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Throwaway08080909070 t1_je3e9fa wrote

Generally population is a benefit, as in the case of China, which has the same population. After all more people = more people to generate GDP, which is why China has the world's second largest GDP.

India... well population appears to hit differently in India.

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brinjal_ke_kama t1_je3enqd wrote

Yeah and that's why stuff like big manufacturing and exports is needed. To raise the GDP per capita.

And while boon of high population is higher export numbers, its bane is that GDP per capita growth is slower.

But you'll ignore that, of course. Cos mom's basement feels nicer that way.

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Throwaway08080909070 t1_je3eved wrote

Again... China seems to manage with six+ times the GDP of India, and they were colonized as well, plus they went through that dreadful period of actually trying to be Communist.

1.4 billion people in India, 1.4 billion people in China.

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brinjal_ke_kama t1_je3f0lx wrote

China started opening its markets in the 70s while India did it in the 90s.

Man stop being dumb on reddit and read some useful stuff.

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Throwaway08080909070 t1_je3f5ti wrote

I guess you should have opened your markets a bit earlier. 🤷‍♂️

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perrinlighteyes t1_je44eyw wrote

China also killed millions of its people in the great leap forward.

Pardon me if we don't follow the same approach

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AbandonedSamurai t1_je1tdok wrote

> exports have risen from $ 500 billion in 2020-2021 to this figure in extremely challenging times.

Thanks, Ukraine - Russia war.

There is no information on the amount of Russian oil refined and exported. Avoiding the facts for obvious reasons like any good fascist nation.

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SaffronBanditAmt t1_je34bzg wrote

Yes conveniently ignore that Coronavirus shut down vast sums of Indian manufacturing and export potential which returned for the subsequent years after, and instead use this opportunity to squeeze in yet another reference to the Ukraine war. As if numerous subs for discussing that topic don't already exist.

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Impressive_Blood3512 t1_je2yykv wrote

I’m hoping that the “fascist nation” your referring to is Russia not India, because if not the word fascist has lost all meaning.

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Robw1970 t1_je1wzkm wrote

It's much more than just oil, India has absorbed quite a bit of manufacturing market share from China.

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AbandonedSamurai t1_je1zn0b wrote

Can you back the 'more than oil' statement with data?

Otherwise, this is another Piyush Goel blah blah and blah.

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Robw1970 t1_je2ac6o wrote

Sure, well this is the China loss part. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/04/manufacturing-orders-from-china-down-40percent-in-demand-collapse.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/07/freight-rates-from-china-to-west-coast-down-90percent-as-trade-falls-rapidly.html

https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/125dakm/madeinindia_iphone_shipments_jump_162/

https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/India-GDP-outpaces-China-despite-slowdown-to-4.4-last-quarter

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JKKIDD231 t1_je2snzq wrote

Do share the inside Intel of what % is oil sales in this $750B exports.

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