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TechieTravis t1_j9z5jox wrote

Maybe Western governments see Russia as not being a threat anymore in the future and want to lay the groundwork for good relations with India now for a future Cold War with China.

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CHTanwar OP t1_j9z5wjj wrote

yep the cycle continues....same thing happened with india and pak during cold war 1.

india was a soviet satellite and pak was a us satellite but unlike pak india is a well managed country which is hpe to do well with western investments and not spread radicalism and terrorism and focus on actual growth.

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wakomorny t1_ja174lj wrote

As an india I would say slightly better managed compared to Pakistan. But yes we better off than they are

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crossdrubicon t1_ja2ez9w wrote

India has the potential to be the Asian manufacturing superpower within the next two or or three decades.

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Emperor_Mao t1_ja28pi2 wrote

India is well managed? what?

It is one of the least developed countries in the world. Corruption is rampant and it is surrounded on all sides by foes. Of which one was supposed to be its peer at one point but has since utterly utterly surpassed India, like completely eclipsed.

India has never once even looked close to living up to its supposed destiny as a global player. I guess having a billion people doesn't automagically mean you gain relative power.

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Emperor_Mao t1_ja2ah7s wrote

Then explain how India has such a low HDI and high corruption if it is well managed?

Why did China completely surpass India in the 90's?

You made the claim, anything to back it up with? lol yeah no. Your response is just racism against Chinese.

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CHTanwar OP t1_ja2aly2 wrote

because india opened up too late and it is a democracy. and in a demcracy things take time. atleast the entire world dosen't hate india like they do to china

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Emperor_Mao t1_ja2b85n wrote

Uh huh yeah. Keep telling yourself that lol.

Meanwhile a bunch of democracies in Asia also surged well past India in this same time period.

I mean keep looking elsewhere for something to blame. We both know India will be less developed than most the world in another 50, 100, 200 years.

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c4chokes t1_ja2dbpa wrote

That’s ok.. keep under estimating your foes 😉 it’s a winning strategy 👍

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CHTanwar OP t1_ja2avpy wrote

and i'm not saying india is anywhere near china in development. But even a supremacist like would have to agree that india is far better than pakistan and we don't have to beg china for investments which is the what i was saying in the first place.

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Emperor_Mao t1_ja2bh12 wrote

Yeah.

Don't take what I say the wrong way. I really do want India to wake up to itself. But if the best thing you can say is "we aren't as bad as Pakistan", then you really do have a big problem as a country. Malaysia, Philippines, Indonesia all grew faster than India did relative to per capita. Many other countries in the same region. If India doesn't wake up and allow itself to be humbled one in a while, nothing will ever change.

You know what really changed China? being humiliated, accepting it, and resolving to never be humiliated like that again. India could do the same. But arrogance wins out.

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CHTanwar OP t1_ja2blpf wrote

this is the first statement you have said that i completely agree with.

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Emperor_Mao t1_ja2apzp wrote

But I mean if we look at Pakistan, why not look at China?

From the 90's to now, India moved ahead slightly over Pakistan across most of those indexes. China utterly eclipsed India. Like not even in the same ballpark. Actually most countries in the region did. Not as much as China, but many countries like Malaysia, Indonesia, The Philippines etc also make India look shit when used as comparison.

Though I partly agree - India probably hasn't been mismanaged. India is impossible to manage, the people are too arrogant and split. What China and other countries in Asia did can not be achieved in India due to long standing cultural issues.

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CHTanwar OP t1_ja2bhgj wrote

every indian agrees that china is far more powerful than india. even our ministers say so, that is non debateble. what this discussion was about was that india is a better place to invest than pakistan i don't know why you just came here to make your self feel better by shitting on india and feel better about being chinese

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Emperor_Mao t1_ja2bkuj wrote

Is your response to everything racism?

China doesn't need racism. China is winning lmao. India is toast.

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Andy900_2 t1_j9zeo5x wrote

Well managed?

https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1157505652/photo/overload-bus.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=XRDZm0mo8pZp12qMmdWptxbq_lLzfaLERxtq7aW0y7g=

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technitecho t1_j9zf0tr wrote

Tbh... I would rather have a bus overloaded with people rather than explosives.

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Andy900_2 t1_j9zfyca wrote

Fair enough. I just don’t think “well managed” when I think about India.

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CHTanwar OP t1_j9zld1x wrote

well managed as in atleast better than pakistan correct word would be better managed

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carpcrucible t1_ja0f0oe wrote

Uhh seems pretty clear in the context of the war happening right now that it's to cut russia off from any help

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Shurqeh t1_ja0d6zi wrote

The best weapon they could get against China would be Russia.

China with a dependent Russia is energy and food secure within a decade. American plans for a naval blockade are nullified by Russia's extensive rail and pipe networks.

China without Russia is reliant on the seas highways to import energy and food. It is still vulnerable to blockade. Further more, Russia's rail network can be used to transport troops right to China's back door threatening them with a second front.

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