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Doobie-D2000 t1_j9tie9s wrote

Reply to comment by knobber_jobbler in Boris Johnson calls on UK to 'break the ice' by sending fighter jets to Ukraine - and warns China against 'historic mistake' by R1ckCrypto

He's very interesting. I honestly believe he is a pompous fool, but I think his public show of intense support for Ukraine now and when he was PM is very telling. He seems like the type of guy that's chasing getting his name in the history books but in a good light. He has realized being the champion of defense for Ukraine and for the UK to lead support in arms for Europe is a sure fire way to get Churchill vibes in the long term view.

It doesn't matter if the jets they send are useless. It will start a Domino effect and everyone will then send jets.

Look at America. Nobody would send leopard tanks until America sent Abrahams. Ukraine doesn't need Abraham tanks. They are logistically a nightmare when combined with all their other tanks. They are essentially "useless".

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knobber_jobbler t1_j9tk6d6 wrote

Absolutely. Right now the history books will show him as philandering idiot who presided over the greatest foreign policy blunder - only comparable with Chamberlain, the tens of thousands of COVID dead and the repeated corruption surrounding him and the Tories. He's desperate to rectify his image. Unfortunately for him, the internet exists.

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Card_Zero t1_j9txy5o wrote

I don't think Brexit was awful, and I'm not certain history books will paint it as a disaster. Currently it's seen as awful because of economic impact and because of the desire to have a strong Europe to oppose Russia, along with the insinuation that Russia was trying to engineer the breakup of Europe. However, a United States of Europe would also have been a bad thing. Unions, federations, and so on are tricky because minimal collaboration between equals is ideal and maximal central government is what tends to emerge. I know it seems irrelevant in the current climate, post-covid and with Russia rampaging around, but Brexit had an overlooked role as a backlash against that.

(It's a valid role if you're troubled by giant octopus-like central governments, I mean. Not everybody is, and I know this is an unpopular opinion, as will now be redundantly demonstrated by downvotes. It is however an aspect of the picture.)

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knobber_jobbler t1_j9tzhq1 wrote

Every economist and diplomat disagrees with you. Brexit is a financial and diplomatic disaster for the UK. There is no United States of Europe and the UK would have no say in stopping it now anyway. In fact the UK leaving will likely increase ties between EU countries going forwards. We've shot ourselves in both feet.

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