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VintageHacker t1_j9tgs9p wrote

Well done Germany! We must stand strong against russian aggression and meddling ,or it will just get worse.

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Ramental t1_j9txst6 wrote

Die Linke and AfD are as never united together at sucking putin's dick. I wish they cared about Germany as much as dictator's well-being.

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EinFahrrad t1_j9uwha8 wrote

It's wonderful that they managed to get everything in order in the end but I swear sometimes Germany can be inexplicably, frustratingly, excruciatingly ... German. Berlin truly is a failed state for many reasons but, hands down, this shit could have happened in my small backwater town just the same, step by step. And you wouldn't even need a destroyed tank for that.

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Traveller_Guide t1_j9v44r3 wrote

One day in 2022, Putin found a monkey's paw. "Oh Monke Paw," Putin asked the paw "If I invade Ukraine, will I be successful?"

The paw answered "My son, if you invade Ukraine, in one year your tanks will ride through the streets of Berlin."

And so things went.

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alien_ghost t1_j9v4c1f wrote

The title for this article on another subreddit is "The Second Worst Thing An Artist Has Done To Russia".

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VegasKL t1_j9v7u88 wrote

**parked outside Russian embassy in Berlin

For clarity.

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Hobo_Knife t1_j9w1nb0 wrote

Well I’ll be damned, they DID get tank to Berlin.

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didistutter69 t1_j9wf96j wrote

Translated to English: "I then received an acknowledgment of receipt. And then, quite soon, a rejection. I don't understand why the case was rejected. One allegation was that people might have died in the tank. That's quite possible, but here's a life hack: Don't commit war crimes in the neighboring country if you don't want to die in the tank! I've lived by this motto for 40 years and so far I've been spared all anti-tank mines and rocket launchers. This is so easy. But that was not the end of the drama."

This man personifies the Germans that I know and work with.

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mata_dan t1_j9wr6yl wrote

The country that mostly speaks English with the most English speakers (country with just the most speakers is India). And some of the other countries that mostly speak English don't like seeing the Butcher's Apron, or having to click on it identifying with it, so it kind of leaves the US flag as the best international option for the language.

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ArticulateAquarium t1_j9xt404 wrote

Because the article talks about how lots of Germans are against sending hardware, which makes absolutely no sense to me. I think I understand the reasoning - 20th century history - but still, seems a weird way to justify that stance.

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jetelklee t1_j9y2236 wrote

Most people over here are in favour of sending hardware. Today though there is a big protest of "pacifists" who even joined hands with the far right to get their message across.

They are a minority though and simply refuse to understand that Putin cannot be repelled with "pacifism".

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ArticulateAquarium t1_j9y38i8 wrote

The article doesn't say it's a minority, it says "the German population is split almost evenly on tank and arms deliveries".

What bothers me more is the 600,000 Germans signing the petition which is "demanding Berlin step up efforts for diplomatic negotiations. “Negotiating does not mean surrendering. Negotiating means making compromises on both sides.."

Elon Musk (is a dick) was saying this and got loads of stick for doing so, as are political members of the far right in the US (who have previously been criticised for being too friendly with Putin).

I don't think there is any reason for backing off one centimetre against Putin's invaders, to let them off in any way is saying it's not so bad invading ex-Soviet countries and committing war crimes against Ukrainians.

Bravo to all the Germans who are for repulsing those invaders in Europe, and Sláva Ukrayíni! Heróiam sláva!

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jetelklee t1_j9z5blx wrote

I agree with you 100%. To my knowledge, there hasn't been any comprehensive polling in regard to the German populace's view on the delivery of Leo tanks etc. as of yet.

People are scared of the escalation any major deliveries of arms may cause. They are scared of a full on NATO-Russian war, which is understandable. They criticise NATO's eastward expansion as well as the USA's imperialist/militarist stance now and in the past. They shout "peace" but ignore Russia's utter disregard toward Ukraine's right to even exist. They are apologists and choose to ignore that Russia basically wants to eradicate Ukraine as a culture / sovereign nation.

To many, the situation is a dilemma, which is why they draw historical comparisons to US American illegitimate wars of the past.

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VintageHacker t1_ja12l30 wrote

The main point of the article, is they installed a dead russian tank outside the russian embassy. My response to that was. Well done Germany!

The secondary part of the article talked about the difficulty of getting various parties to agree to that and commentary as to why and they pointed towards hesitancy or opposition to supplying certain weapons. My response to that was - we must stand strong or it will get worse. This was to counter the idiots that think holding hands and sucking russias dick will work for the long term.

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ArticulateAquarium t1_ja1t4mq wrote

I thought "Well done [the whole of] Germany" was a bit generous, is all, plus the ones who are seemingly supportive of Putin really exasperate me - just as do the US GoP members who are saying similar.

The bombed out tank is a bit of genius imagery, though.

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VintageHacker t1_ja7ml0k wrote

Russia plays both sides. Their goal is to weaken. They started with the left and are so entrenched, most lefties have no idea how much of their ideology was originally sponsored by the Kremlin. The right wing infiltration seems to be a more recent phenomenon. Left and right have always been two wings of the same bird.

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