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fnorksayer t1_ja750pj wrote

And what are they gonna do anyway? To throw potatoes in the Ukrainian tanks?

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AmINotAlpharius t1_ja7566a wrote

Do not underestimate Zerg Rush tactics.

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ComanderLucky t1_ja76qkg wrote

You've seen how well has Zerg rush worked for Russians in this war? They are using cold war equipment with ww1 tactics, Zerg rush does not work in modern combat with braced, fortified, and well prepared enemy, this waste of life is as potent as their faliure to secure objectives with this tactic

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AmINotAlpharius t1_ja77w4l wrote

Any rush grinds out some defender's forces. Small part by small part, inch by inch. It is an extremely inefficient method but it works if the attacker has an unlimited supply of meat.

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weealex t1_ja7jwhe wrote

But the point of the zerg rush is to create pressure into a checkmate scenario before your opponent can get established. A 4/6/10 pool is basically dead if the attack is deflected or fails to cause sufficient economic damage. In this analogy, Russia tried a rush, failed to cause sufficient damage, and now Ukraine is getting a fully upgraded army of siege tanks, goliaths, and science vessels

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AmINotAlpharius t1_ja7kiir wrote

If you have ten million soldiers and your enemy has nine million bullets, you win.

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pythonic_dude t1_ja8ivdq wrote

In real world, by the time you lose five million your soldiers are already hanging you.

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weealex t1_ja7lpy8 wrote

Unless the bullets i'm firing kills 2 per shot.

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Austoman t1_ja7ykic wrote

Or 1 million soldiers die from friendly fire, starvation, environmental conditions (freezing), overdosing, disease, infighting, and general injury from poor troop movement/management with a complete breakdown of supply lines.

Attrition is a major soldier killer. Its most effective when an army is undersupplied, unprepared, and undisciplined.

Guess what the Russian army is.

All of that also ignores that zerging doesnt work when attempting to occupy a location. When the guerrilla civilian fighters are better equipped both with weapons, equipment, intelligence, and communications, you have a serious problem. Theres a reason you dont invade cities. A city on the defensive is at a significant advantage vs an invading force.

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RiverGreen7535 t1_ja9hi0e wrote

Not to mention that if this mobilization happens and they actually get training, Ukraine should have some beefy weapons like the M1, Leopard 1 and 2, along with a bunch of armored transports. . . . . . it's basically a slaughter house running into that weaponry

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TarechichiLover t1_ja7cu0j wrote

Yea.. human wave tactics are useless in the 21sy century. Least of all vs western technology. Everything is high volume, high lethality.

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AmINotAlpharius t1_ja7dfg9 wrote

Inefficient, but not useless.

If you have more soldiers than your enemy has bullets, you win.

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50-Minute-Wait t1_ja7zyf5 wrote

Not if you can’t feed them cause their food rations keep getting blown up.

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daniel_22sss t1_ja82vhb wrote

Yeah, good luck competing with american MIC. Lets see how many bullets THEY have.

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JavelindOrc t1_ja995cr wrote

The current MIC also doesn't account for the massive amounts of companies, and some of those massive companies themselves, being switched to full production of military goods in a war economy. In that case, human waves would uh....yea I guess we could call them "inefficient" let's go with that.

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darkstar3333 t1_ja87fna wrote

Zerg rushes don't work when the enemy has teched up.

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