whingeing t1_ja28tz1 wrote on February 26, 2023 at 8:13 AM

Reply to comment by CulturalFlight6899 in Most G20 nations condemn Russia for war, China silent by bluelotus214

Uh I don’t agree with him. I don’t think the point of that was to be pro Russia. The point of that was to not take sides and do what’s good for their country.

CulturalFlight6899 t1_ja29pux wrote on February 26, 2023 at 8:24 AM

Thats my point-- he is right Indians hate the West and you outline why.

They resent us for the actions undertaken by our great grandfathers and beyond (Cold War) and later (War on terror + Pakistan)

If we ever want Indians to be allies we have to make amends for this and offer an incentive that pulls them away from Russia

But this is very unlikely, as they love Russia and see it as more trustworthy and dependable than the US, and are very wary of relying upon the West in any way.

Its the reason why their trade is growing so fast with China. They may say they hate China, and some reddit people will say they hate both but China more, but economically India imports fucktons (billions, largest importer by far) from there and its only rising.

And due to nations past action, Soviet support and American antagonism, the relationship may be too far gone to salvage

This isn't even mentioning the military relationship India and Russia enjoy

whingeing t1_ja2oxb1 wrote on February 26, 2023 at 11:45 AM

Sounds like you have an agenda and would rather live in a bubble where you’re an expert geopolitician.

CulturalFlight6899 t1_ja2q9yi wrote on February 26, 2023 at 12:02 PM

How so? I'm not a geopolitical expert, just interested in trade and econ and geopolitics.

Not sure what bubble you mea. Am in Russian telegrams, Indian news and Hindu speaking areas, Chinese media apps, etc.

If anything, Indian media and people are even more anti West in Hindi speaking circles than English ones. Hence China being their largest trade partner

whingeing t1_ja2sqix wrote on February 26, 2023 at 12:31 PM

I really don’t think the entire the world is anti US, much less anti anyone. Yes there are problematic things in society today, but polarizing news and a percentage of people who are voicing their opinions loudly does not immediately mean it’s fact. I’ll stick to the point: I do not agree with you that india hates the US. I don’t think the US hates India. If that’s the case, we should listen to the likes of the the Republican Party who love Russia and want us to stop helping the Ukrainians. But does supplying support immediately mean we hate Russia? The US and the Europeans have been buying their oil from India who sources MOST of their oil from Iraq and some from Russia too. Does that make us pro Russia and pro Middle East? Do you see how your arguments are just meant to incite division and hatred?

Geopolitics is complicated. Our armchair opinions aren’t grounded well enough to make sweeping statements. Did you see the post about El Salvador yesterday? The news coverage was so bad and you’d think it’s the worst. But then you listen to individuals who live there and realize hey maybe the world is more complicated than we think.