puttinonthefoil t1_j6mwpwp wrote
Reply to comment by SuperBethesda in Life in Prison Plus 25 Years for Defendant Who Shot 21-Year-Old Man in Broad Daylight by SuperBethesda
Sounds great, right?
And yet study, after study, after study has shown that stiffer penalties do little to curb crime.
https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf
Editing to add: I love how Reddit is all about data and then when you bring up data that goes against their instincts on criminal justice it’s just straight vitriol and downvotes.
AnswerGuy301 t1_j6n50nw wrote
It's not so much about stopping someone from killing as it is stopping them from killing again.
DCRealEstateAgent t1_j6ntkia wrote
This right here. I don't care what some study says, if he's in jail for life, he's in jail for life among his peers. One less person we have to worry about out there trying to kill other people.
topher180 t1_j6n3f4w wrote
And yet, recidivism is more likely for violent criminals who use firearms. Nearly 70% of offenders commit another violent crime.
https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/recidivism-among-federal-firearms-offenders
So yea, it does sound great.
Awkward_Dragon25 t1_j6n1x72 wrote
Puts him away for a while though so he can't kill anyone else. Not like DC where nothing happens to criminals and they're free to carjack and assault and rob over and over again.
SuperBethesda OP t1_j6n46lk wrote
According to this study, it’s great.
https://www.nber.org/digest/oct98/sentence-enhancements-reduce-crime
puttinonthefoil t1_j6p3jfr wrote
This study has numerous flaws that have been pointed out by successive researchers. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1147698
SuperBethesda OP t1_j6p8yjx wrote
Your link has nothing to do with that assertion on that particular study.
ch36u3v4r4 t1_j6nfp37 wrote
LOL from the Freakanomics guy back in 1998.
topher180 t1_j6nrm36 wrote
I’m not bringing vitriol. I’m also aware there’s conflicting data in regards to sentencing. There isn’t though, to my knowledge, conflicting information regarding gun violence offenses. Aren’t you at least open to other data which doesn’t jive with your own instincts?
puttinonthefoil t1_j6o426m wrote
There isn’t conflicting data on sentencing. The modern studies all say the same thing, and it is logically true - do you know the penalty for grand larceny? Aggravated assault? No, of course you don’t. So how is a long potential sentence a deterrent?
I don’t have an instinct on this, I read the data and see what it says. And the modern studies all say the same thing: harsher penalties do not deter crime.
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