FormerCollegeDJ t1_j2dxvny wrote on December 31, 2022 at 3:29 PM

IMO, one of the big issues with City Winery was the location access. Many people don't want to deal with the hassle of driving through the infamous Dave Thomas Circle (i.e. New York Avenue/Florida Avenue intersection) to get to a venue that has relatively little nearby.

I think the lack of cross-promotion with other venues, i.e. having a common promoter for multiple venues in the DC area (like LiveNation, I.M.P., and the people operating/promoting shows at Union Stage, Jammin' Java, Howard Theatre, etc.), didn't help either. City Winery isn't like The Birchmere or Black Cat that have been around for many, many years and people know to look for show listings for those venues.

FGGF t1_j2e40nm wrote on December 31, 2022 at 4:13 PM

That's exactly right. I've lived both west and south of Ivy City in NE under 2 miles away and there's no good way to get there without a car. Why would I go to a neighborhood that's not accessible via public transportation when I can easily get to all the others? Not everyone has a car or wants to drive to a place to drink.

Cool_Story_Bra t1_j2esh01 wrote on December 31, 2022 at 6:58 PM

Doesn’t even have to involve that intersection. I’ve lived in the H street and NOMA areas for years and I can count the times I’ve gone to Ivy City on one hand. It’s just annoying to get to, without even the benefit of being in between me and someone I may be meeting.

foreverurgirl t1_j2f9kxf wrote on December 31, 2022 at 9:00 PM

The complete cut off to EASY public transit and lack of walkable access points is racist. DC set the area up to be a throwaway space and cut it off from resources and the rest of the growth in the surrounding areas.

That school and vacant bus lot needs to develop because it will bring more park space and the park along the back of Mt Olivet needs attention. It isn’t a place for children or adults.

Anyone arguing or downvoting me needs to spend real time there because I lived there and I am so disappointed in empower dc messing with the new project. Like can you guys start by cleaning up the park there?