Submitted by ActuaryPersonal2378 t3_zvn2mu in washingtondc

The road is too windy, the speed is too high, the lanes are way too narrow.

I’m shocked there aren’t more accidents on it. I don’t know what the solution is either. But every time I’m on it it feels like I’m going to get in an accident and I’m sweating like a pig

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A_Bag_of_Chimpanzees t1_j1pza5w wrote

I'm with you. And people speed on it like crazy. Yesterday I was trying to get on it via Waterside Drive and I had to get up to 50+ mph just to keep up with the flow of traffic.

Admittedly, it's not usually that bad, but still.

Edit: Damn... tough crowd today. Can someone at least explain to me why they find my post so objectionable, instead of just downvoting?

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ItchyArticle t1_j1pzdq6 wrote

The solution is probably to close it to cars and let the national park be used for bikes/pedestrians

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bigatrop t1_j1q2sxd wrote

I hope this doesn’t offend, but drivers like OP should avoid rock creek. They’re the worst to deal with and are the ones who cause accidents.

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orangedrinkmcdonalds t1_j1q414r wrote

I use it every day to commute and the only accidents Ive seen are 1) folks merging on (2nd car rear ending the one in front - happens a lot at the P st NB entrance); 2) people ignoring the barriers and going the wrong way during rush hour and 3) fender benders as folks try to cut it at the last minute for the Beach Drive exit NB.

I agree that some folks speed but I also see a lot of folks just chilling at 25 in the passing lane, which imo is equally dangerous.

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cleversobriquet t1_j1q6ye0 wrote

The Rock Creek Motor Speedway? It's the only fun road in the city.

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AnonyJustAName t1_j1qcxfw wrote

I definitely have experienced traffic going that fast, esp south of Calvert. Farther north the narrowness of the lanes tends to slow traffic. I have seen cars off the road and even in the creek a few times. Stay safe out there everyone!

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messmaker523 t1_j1qi6sp wrote

The biggest danger is the out of town driver, moderately lost with their heads buried in their GPS thinking if they make a wrong turn they'll end up in Montana

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ScorpioWaterSign t1_j1ql88a wrote

Man I loved that road. I’d drop my car into sports mode and cruise

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DocDez t1_j1qle6i wrote

You forgot the best part, it reverses direction!

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dont_tread_on_dc t1_j1qlf3c wrote

They need to close it to car traffic and make it cycle/pedestrian only.

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overnighttoast t1_j1qnuvr wrote

Yeah I can always tell when inexperienced drivers are on it and it's such a pain. Idk whats up with folks being so entitled they think they move somewhere and not realize they'll have to learn new skills to assimilate. Uber drivers included.

People can drive fast and safe in rock creek because they've practiced and are experienced. There's plenty of things in life you can't just jump head first into and that's fine.

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NPRjunkieDC t1_j1qpjes wrote

You don't need to get on it . I live in 20009 next to it and never use it. My husband does, and so does my son.

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jpg1979 t1_j1qqw3e wrote

There's also no median barrier of any kind, which always makes me worry that some other driver is going to look at their phone at the wrong moment and kill both of us in a head-on collision.

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J_adoreDidi t1_j1qrg0o wrote

I love it. For a few minutes, it feels like you’re not in the city.

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wordsmith217 t1_j1qvgd2 wrote

Never drive in SWVA if Rock Creek scares you this much.

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CompletelyProtocol t1_j1qvtkk wrote

I read this study regarding roundabouts, they don't work because they're easy to understand, but because they are confusing. They require a level of attention that a stoplight does not. Despite this they have fewer accidents and traffic flows better through them. I think rock Creek gives this same vibe. It is terrifying, but for that same reason it is safer. People need to pay more attention on rock Creek thus fewer accidents happen.

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Cucumbrsandwich t1_j1qzzjt wrote

Best road in DC. Driving it regularly was the only good part about living in Petsworth 😭

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shuggnog t1_j1ranc5 wrote

No way it’s the bommmmmb!!!

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jon20001 t1_j1rhlhj wrote

You obviously did not grow up here.

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ActuaryPersonal2378 OP t1_j1rn8ow wrote

It's definitely beautiful don't get me wrong! I *want* to like it and I love love love seeing the bridges. but I also have a lot of anxiety about getting sideswiped when driving or in an uber (I don't have a car right now)

But I also understand that might just be a personal problem

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ActuaryPersonal2378 OP t1_j1rnono wrote

In retrospect I'm sure mine is just a personal fear of getting side-swiped (or doing the side-swiping). My car died so I don't drive anymore for the time being but I find that a lot of uber/lyft drivers completely ignore the lanes and will drift around with no regard for cars around them. For me personally that is what I find to be the most stressful and what prompted this post lol.

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ActuaryPersonal2378 OP t1_j1rnvxx wrote

I currently am not driving but mine is just a personal fear of getting side-swiped (or doing the side-swiping). My car died so I don't drive anymore for the time being but I find that a lot of uber/lyft drivers completely ignore the lanes and will drift around with no regard for cars around them. For me personally that is what I find to be the most stressful and what prompted this post lol.

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Plexdet t1_j1ro6py wrote

Here's the thing, unless you are in conditions where you might lose traction, you're probably safer on that road than most others. The reason being is that EVERYONE is PAYING ATTENTION. If you are scared or have to actively turn frequently, you're not on your phone. I would say the most real danger is either losing control of your vehicle or an animal jumping out in front of you.

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wordsmith217 t1_j1rps89 wrote

If you’re talking about the crazy lane closures and direction switches then I can see where you’re coming from. I’m just saying that compared to the vast majority of other roads in DC, Rock Creek is very tame. You have a far greater chance of being side swiped on any residential street.

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IndependentYam3227 t1_j1rx478 wrote

I don't find it the least bit challenging or scary. Not every road can be broad and straight.

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Confident-Minute6541 t1_j1s2ftp wrote

Me too lol smh. I will happily add 20 minutes to my trip to avoid. Especially at night or bad weather.

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Pipes_of_Pan t1_j1s5k1l wrote

Let’s go ahead and fill in the creek, make it six lanes and cut the speed limit to 15 for OP

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wowihaveanopinion t1_j1sa53i wrote

ahhhhh thats YOU driving 10 mph with your brights on. please just throw your keys in the creek and do us all a favor

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smbmunkey113 t1_j1saw1w wrote

Its like Mario cart IRL - freaking awesome. Only thing missing are the rainbows :(

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overnighttoast t1_j1sb0e8 wrote

They truly are. Uber at least helps you finance a car, so I have a theory that people who have never driven before rush through getting their license, use the Uber financing program and then jump onto the road without any real care for learning how to driver properly.

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IAmTerdFergusson t1_j1sitn3 wrote

wut? this reads like a 15 year old that's never driven a car before lol

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Edgun t1_j1svlto wrote

I love driving there but the potholes suck…..but that’s just DC

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bozakman t1_j1t6229 wrote

Take an alternate route? Just saying..

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classicalL t1_j1tcs1b wrote

I recommend against driving in Norway, the UK, New Zealand, much of Greece...

Rock Creek parkway is pretty much flat and hardly twisty. The lanes have markings and a standard width. There are no cliffs and it has guard rails.

On driving difficulty it gets a 2 out of 10. Very easy. Almost every road outside a city in Norway is on a cliff with constant blind turns and you need to know where the corners of your car are to inches to not hit the trucks that come around corners. There are no markings in the middle of the roads and there are reindeer, free ranging sheep and moose.

Essentially people need to be instructed how to drive better I guess. Norway takes it seriously. They enforce speeding harshly and alcohol even more so. Having driven there I saw why. The US road system is way too easy which lets people drive fast and badly.

Wide lanes are what make people drive fast that is well known if you want people to drive slowly you have to make lanes much narrower.

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mrperfect7592 t1_j1tm4e2 wrote

Whenever my GPS suggests that route, I choose to avoid it. It’s not that I can’t drive on it, it’s just with the 25 MPH speed limit, it feels like it takes forever to get back home. I’d rather drive through the city urban landscape anyway.

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Macrophage87 t1_j1u38hf wrote

The solution is to ride on the trail next to it. That's way more fun

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blankspace215 t1_j1x0v3v wrote

It's really amazing how many people took this post and went with their own narrative of what you said - assuming you're the one driving, that you speed, that you go too slow, that you're saying there should be 6 lanes, that you're not from here, etc etc

Being in an Uber on this road is pretty sketchy and I agree with how you feel - and yeah maybe it would have been good to mention that context in your post, but the way people went off track in the comments and downvoted you is interesting and feels like folks jumping on the bandwagon a bit 🥲

Stay safe out there folks, I think we can all agree that there are bad drivers and there's also not ideal infrastructure design out here. Lots of things could improve!

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orangedrinkmcdonalds t1_j22ja54 wrote

Driving slower than traffic while sitting in the passing lane is incredibly dangerous. It then requires people to pass on the right, which means that passing and stagnating cars intermingle. Few things are more dangerous on a functioning roadway than cars going different speeds in the same lane. This is why passing lanes were established.

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Outrageous-Cap8713 t1_j24fju3 wrote

You’re not a skilled driver. Sorry. But don’t feel bad, most people can’t handle driving on anything except a very wide, very straight road.

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