TheDeHymenizer t1_j1w6c2h wrote on December 27, 2022 at 9:18 PM

Reply to comment by missjennielang in Did you drive drunk on Christmas? by dataminimizer

https://healthblog.uofmhealth.org/wellness-prevention/how-alcohol-impairs-your-ability-to-drive

1/10th of a second change on average at .08 (please remeber "on average" means literally 50% of people aren't even effected that much). While its fun to say things "1/10th of a second could save lives!" in reality per my other posts there's a reason 66% of car accidents involve all parties being sober.

>Studies dating back to the 1960s have demonstrated the correlation between BAC and accident risk. The relative risk of being in a crash is 1.38 times higher at a BAC of 0.05 than at a BAC of 0.00. At 0.08, the risk is 2.69 times higher. At 0.10, the crash risk climbs to five times higher.

2.69 times are .08, 5 times at .1

https://pl-law.com/what-is-my-probability-of-getting-into-a-car-accident/#:~:text=One%20report%20uncovered%20a%20startling,collision%20once%20every%2017.9%20years.

every 1000 miles you drive you have a 1 in 366 chance on being in an accident. Meaning on any given drive your odds of being in an accident are virtually 0%. So that 2.69 times or 5 times is nearly meaningless.

While all these articles have flowery language around what a heckin great job we've done with drinking and driving and what a heckin big deal 1/10th of a second is I'd still contend that the punishment for DD is way to high for the result of the majority of cases and we'd be far better off (and see less disparate enforcement especially in minority communities) if we added a law something along the lines of "DUI is for someone over .08 and showing visible signs of their driving being effected otherwise if they're over .08 and were pulled over something not related to their visible driving (think a tail light out) then its a sizeable fine".

While I know plenty of people have lost people to drinking and driving plenty of people have lost loved ones to auto accidents in general and making an army of new felons because some people can't hold their liquor won't bring anyone back.

missjennielang t1_j1w907o wrote on December 27, 2022 at 9:36 PM

The research doesn’t back you up like you think it does

TheDeHymenizer t1_j1w9b0b wrote on December 27, 2022 at 9:38 PM

>The research doesn’t back you up like you think it does

Well when opinion pieces are shoved into the results of a study its hard to convince redditors otherwise.

So we need even stricter DUI penalties from your reading of it then?

Edit: a quick look at your recent post history shows you seem to at some level be in favor of social justice. So seeing how DUIs mint more felons then almost any other outlet how do you rectify the fact that the vast majority of instances of drinking and driving is a victimless crime but meanwhile countless of minorities are felons today because they had 1-2 more drinks then they should of and are now essentially un-hireable?

missjennielang t1_j1wesuw wrote on December 27, 2022 at 10:16 PM

No I think your opinion that 90% of people can safely drive drunk is asinine at best.

TheDeHymenizer t1_j1xf8ai wrote on December 28, 2022 at 2:45 AM

Well then let me go ahead and tighten up my thesis for yah before you down vote with tears of rage in your eyes someone dares go agaisnt the grain.

Most people, likely around 8 to 9 out of 10, can easily drive at a BAC of .08-.15 without increasing their odds of being in a wreck more so then if everyone driving were to be sober. As things stand now the vast majority of DUIs are used as a checkbox for the police so they can turn a minor traffic violation into a near felony charge (or an actual felony if its a repeat offender). Of course there is a BAC where everyone is unable to drive but we are currently ridiculously far from that.

missjennielang t1_j1xibun wrote on December 28, 2022 at 3:09 AM

Denying a plethora of research and statistics is not going against the grain, it’s you being a selfish person who proudly drives drunk.

TheDeHymenizer t1_j1zj2hh wrote on December 28, 2022 at 3:53 PM

>Denying a plethora of research and statistics is not going against the grain, it’s you being a selfish person who proudly drives drunk.

lmao I don't drive. Period. I take my bike or public transit every where I go.

I just linked you the research and its findings. You can't see past the opinion writings of the reporters who are reporting it and are confusing that with the actual research.

But yeah enjoy making armies of minorities into felons who these laws disproportionately effect you hypocrite.