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pedalshift t1_j15mj5e wrote

Sick burn on Ottawa.

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the5nowman t1_j171j0e wrote

We have no stadium there that’s even close to capable of hosting.

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medievalmachine t1_j1826os wrote

You can’t play soccer in a hockey arena? I think people do this.

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AinDiab t1_j19yb0d wrote

How many hockey stadiums have at minimum a 40,000 person capacity?

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Redditman9909 t1_j1a0wvm wrote

By global standards Ottawa is a pretty small capital city. Metro area has barely over 1.5 million people. As such it lacks a lot of venues you’d find in other national capital cities. Hell they’ve been fighting for years just to get a decent downtown hockey arena for their NHL team. Not to mention the lacklustre transit system.

Also it’s not exactly a diehard sports city. I can’t even imagine what they’d use a FIFA stadium for once the World Cup is over. I guess you could move the Redblacks there and watch them struggle to fill the place at even half capacity.

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Goby18 t1_j15zgi6 wrote

Capital city. Capitol is the building.

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nsoudulu1234 t1_j16kdsm wrote

I’ve never understood why they’re spelled differently.

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firewarner t1_j16ll61 wrote

They mean different things, like which and witch

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Isaelia t1_j16v8l7 wrote

Not exactly an analogous situation. Those are two totally separate words with unrelated etymologies that happen to be homophones in today's English. Capitol and capital are homophones with similar definitions because they have the exact same root, so it bears asking why they both exist. The word made its way into English as capital. Capitol is the name of a particular place because the Founders decided to get fancy and try to evoke the Capitoline Hill.

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Kervels t1_j1a149c wrote

Maybe the two words 'have the same root, but it is still just coincidence for them to end up so similar, and hence confusing to to people.

The word capital obviously stems from the Latin word for head (or chief), which makes perfect sense. The Capitoline Hill in Rome was however named long before the site had anything to do with being a capital. One myth says that it got its name from a human skull found in the ground when building a temple. But in the end the hill could have been named after a finger or a leg or whatever, which would have been so much easier for Americans.

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medievalmachine t1_j182ipf wrote

Well it matches Parliament, which is not a real word either.

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FormerCollegeDJ t1_j15mvd0 wrote

Hmm, nobody tell the people in Ottawa about that conversation.

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No1Statistician t1_j15wcgl wrote

I'd rather this happen than pay for a billionaire's stadium honestly

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buxtonOJ t1_j167s2o wrote

You’re still paying for them

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No1Statistician t1_j16afcz wrote

I'm aware PG County paid for that stadium which I still disagree with. I still agree they shouldn't have paid for Audi field or Nats Park either without public ownership .

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tmack99 t1_j16vsr5 wrote

Generally agree on stadiums (especially NFL stadiums which are used 8 times a year) being privately funded, but do you really regret Nats Park? It led to an entire neighborhood being completely revitalized. I feel like that’s the rare example of public investment in a stadium working out.

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No1Statistician t1_j16z0ab wrote

I don't think it's worth it. I see your point, but think of places like the warf and national harbor that are new and developed fine without stadiums, and also the owners can afford new stadiums and wont leave this huge market

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Backdoorpickle t1_j18zauq wrote

The Wharf is literally next to Nats Park.

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No1Statistician t1_j1920m8 wrote

No it's not. Warf is Waterfront and Nats Park is Navy Yard. That's like saying Nats Park revitalized Captiol Hill.

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Backdoorpickle t1_j1bnqzj wrote

The actual Navy Yard is the same distance from Nats Park as it is to the actual Wharf lol

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greenthanks75 t1_j19f48v wrote

Nats Park is about a mile from the Wharf. I personally would not want to walk that before or after a game in the sweaty summer.

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Backdoorpickle t1_j1bnnwq wrote

The Wharf neighborhood is basically everything west of Nats Park once you cross South Capitol. It's the same distance to the ACTUAL Navy Yard as it is to the ACTUAL Wharf lol

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greenthanks75 t1_j1bs3la wrote

The Wharf is easy to define because it’s the stuff that’s along an actual wharf. Audi Field is not in The Wharf. It’s in Southwest. The Wharf is a portion of Southwest. Not the whole thing

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Backdoorpickle t1_j1bshiz wrote

The Safeway is literally the SW Waterfront Safeway. Audi Field is essentially on the water. No one considers Navy Yard SE DC. It's the Navy Yard despite the Navy Yard being an actual location. Is Nats Park on the Navy base? No.

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greenthanks75 t1_j1bszuv wrote

What are you on about? The Safeway isn’t the Wharf Safeway and no one would call it that. I lived in Navy Yard for 3 years, of course it’s in SE DC. That’s its address. Navy Yard is a term for a neighborhood and a naval yard. Is that confusing you?

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Backdoorpickle t1_j1bt4i7 wrote

No it's not confusing to me at all. Apparently you missed the part where you shop in Safeway and they call it the Waterfront Safeway lol

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88leo t1_j170bi1 wrote

> completely revitalized.

sigh

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tmack99 t1_j179yra wrote

You preferred the empty lots and boarded up liquor stores?

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shlem t1_j18wrlq wrote

I'd prefer a southwest not destroyed by the government in the 60/70s by a round of "revitalization"

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88leo t1_j1dr86u wrote

People lived there and instead of helping them they were just relocated and forced into a different community. Typical imperial european thing to do I guess.

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tmack99 t1_j1hln7m wrote

Barely anyone lived there. It was a complete ghost town

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ppc2500 t1_j15zrn3 wrote

Someone correct me but I thought FedEx wasn't in the bid. It was Baltimore (Ravens stadium).

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ZonaPunk t1_j164ry2 wrote

correct, but they knew Fedex Field would not make the grade so it wasn't considered

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Eagleburgerite t1_j164eag wrote

Correct

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efthfj OP t1_j168d32 wrote

Nope. They dropped when they saw the writing on the wall…https://apnews.com/article/soccer-sports-los-angeles-international-maryland-40e5217505c15ce93fe99535a988a950

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greenthanks75 t1_j19etpx wrote

I think the final bid was “DC/Baltimore” and some events would have been held in DC with all of the matches being played in the Ravens stadium. I think part of the bid was increased transit between DC and Baltimore for the duration of the Cup.

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lpycb42 t1_j19lbkw wrote

Oh God it’s bad enough as it is, I can’t imagine the nightmare.

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AsbestosIn0bstetrics t1_j18w7sj wrote

True, but they were also trying to prevent an international soccer star from being murdered by a squeegee boy.

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DfcukinLite t1_j19jo2k wrote

As long as they don’t attack them first with a bat they’d be fine. Thousands of other are. And that was well after. Not to worry tho, they could just be murder waiting for metro or in Columbia Heights

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Nilay431 t1_j16mqni wrote

Seriously though why are we calling north jersey, New York? Meadowlands is not located in New York.

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DUNGAROO t1_j1890ra wrote

For the same reason that the Redskins/WFT/Commanders are still known as Washington DC’s NFL team, despite the fact that the redskins haven’t played a single game within the city limits for over 25 years.

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Lolipsy t1_j17n6rp wrote

Probably because Meadowlands is the home field for New York’s football and soccer teams, and New Jersey doesn’t have enough strength in its own sports to counter that (the best we have is Gotham, which we share with New York). As someone who’s from NJ, I’ll die mad about it.

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cfbguy t1_j18znq1 wrote

Pro soccer doesn’t play at Meadowlands, the Red Bulls are at RBA in Harrison

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Wonderful-Speaker-32 t1_j17xcef wrote

It's the same reason we call IAD and DCA Washington-Dulles and Washington-National, even though they're not in the district. Metlife serves NYC, so you can call it an NYC stadium. It's only a 14 minute drive from Manhattan anyways.

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IvyGold t1_j17ac5y wrote

Other maps are calling it NY/NJ.

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bottletothehead t1_j18lz7z wrote

Of the top of my head, 6 of the American cities on this map would need to be renamed because the stadiums are outside of the city limits

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TrueVCU t1_j19core wrote

GOD

PUT THE HUDSON RIVER THERE

FOR A REASON

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__mud__ t1_j18plh3 wrote

(angry Buffalo Bills fan noises)

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TheOvy t1_j16i6zd wrote

There's actually 900k 100k more people in the DC metro area than the Philly metro. It's sad to see us come up short in ways where we should otherwise be competitive.

edit: misread the wiki, accidentally compared Philly's urban population vs. DC's metro area population. DC metro is still more populous, but by a much smaller number! Thanks to u/lame_grapefruit for the correction.

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lame_grapefruit t1_j16s0px wrote

That’s just not true? It seems like the difference is about 100k

Source: Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_metropolitan_area

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_metropolitan_areas

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TheOvy t1_j16tyl0 wrote

I stand corrected. Where the DC Metropolitan Area wiki page lists the metro population first, the Philly Metropolitan Area wiki page lists urban population first, which is a smaller number. My mistake!

Full rankings can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_statistical_area

Still, DC area population is ranked 6th, Philly is 7th.

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Wonderful-Speaker-32 t1_j17xhsa wrote

If you compare the DC-Baltimore CSA to the Philly-Wilmington CSA, then we're larger by more than 2.5million. And honestly comparing CSAs is probably the move, because all 9.9 million of us were snuffed out of a stadium, not just the DC-area ones. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_statistical_area

But honestly, I'd be even madder if I was in Chicago. 4th largest CSA and 3rd largest MSA, and there isn't even a good option nearby.

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stache_twista t1_j1690cc wrote

  1. Snyder didn’t move the team to Landover or build FedEx Field 2. Most DC residents including me don’t want to subsidize his new stadium 3. The new stadium is better off in VA because that’s where most of the football team’s fans are anyway 4. FIFA is corrupt and where the World Cup is doesn’t really matter 5. Philly is a 2 hr train ride from Union Station and probably more fun to visit than FedEx Field
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ahaaracer t1_j16tvha wrote

You can get to the Linc via heavy transit much faster than getting to FedEx or M&T via transit.

From DC you can get to the stadium without a car from Amtrak to the MFL @ 30st Street then to the BSL right to the Linc.

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BoysenberryNo4959 t1_j16n8kl wrote

The last thing this area needs is wall-to-wall month long game day/post madness and years long madness building up to the WC. And I say this as a huge WC fan. I’d rather watch from the comfort of my living room.

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efthfj OP t1_j16rtxc wrote

We're talking not even ONE match!

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uknownick t1_j165h6v wrote

Big embarrassment

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MaxiqueBDE t1_j1710h3 wrote

It was because the Commanders stadium had some issues, if I recall correctly

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SixersWin t1_j1630he wrote

My favorite description of FIFA (not mine) is that they are a criminal organization that sometimes organizes sporting events

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ladyorthetiger0 t1_j161e9l wrote

No we don't need all that extra riffraff.

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CandidPiglet9061 t1_j16a611 wrote

You said it. If I see one more goddamn Dutchman I’ll loose it!

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MattXT t1_j16erst wrote

I’m highly offended by orange.

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vagrant_feet t1_j17a119 wrote

Kansas City is a host city, but not DC. Lol I understand that they have a stronger MLS team but cmon, which international team wants to play matches in Kansas City? Which country’s fans wanna travel there?

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9throwawayDERP t1_j18rio2 wrote

the US team need home field advantage somewhere. they aint getting that on either coast.

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romulusjsp t1_j18yq8l wrote

The US Soccer Federation has made a sort of second home in KC, there’s a new training facility there for the national teams and Arrowhead (I’m told) is a good venue for soccer in addition to their soccer-specific stadium

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greenthanks75 t1_j19fxaq wrote

Excluding Kansas City would have been a middle finger to the entire middle part of the country. If you remove KC from this map there is an enormous swath of the continent that would have been left out of hosting.

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turtyurt t1_j17fwo4 wrote

  1. It’s capital, not capitol.

  2. Ottawa is the capital of Canada and they aren’t hosting either.

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14thU t1_j17p10l wrote

As someone who was at the last World Cup in DC this is a shame for a great city to miss out on.

A redeveloped RFK could be a positive addition for the capital city.

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FSOTFitzgerald t1_j173w0g wrote

What about Chicago?

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9throwawayDERP t1_j18rcn6 wrote

soldier field is too small?

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stache_twista t1_j18t98x wrote

And will be 102 years old in 2026

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9throwawayDERP t1_j18tvak wrote

but was rebuilt 20 years ago. not a fan of the remodel, but it is still in way better shape than fedex

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stache_twista t1_j18uccx wrote

I'm from Chicago. Soldier Field is decent but even with the remodel (which was botched and now 20 years old) it's not a venue fit for the World Cup. There are probably 25 nicer stadiums in the NFL

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9throwawayDERP t1_j18v225 wrote

so i guess i'm a bit older than you, but i remember the old soldier field hosting the word cup 30 years ago. it was great.

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stache_twista t1_j18vddj wrote

It's an iconic venue for sure but they ruined it with the remodel. Now it looks like there's a spaceship parked on top and the Bears are likely going to be playing in a new stadium in the suburbs by 2030.

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greenthanks75 t1_j19ff0e wrote

First thing I thought looking at this was the huge swath of inland North America that was getting excluded from this World Cup other than Kansas City. Throw a bone to Denver or Chicago or Minneapolis or something.

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pizzajona t1_j1cbyzw wrote

part of the reason is that it’s much easier for international fans if the game is on one of the coasts. That being said, they couldn’t leave all of middle America out so they chose Kansas City which is close to the geographically center of the contiguous US

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greenthanks75 t1_j1d1eau wrote

The other US sites have significant international flight activity. On that note, Chicago, Denver, or Minneapolis would’ve made much more sense than Kansas City. Nearly every traveler will have to fly to somewhere else in the US first before getting to KC.

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GovernorOfReddit t1_j18ettk wrote

Why not host it in College Park? I'm sure SECU Stadium could be changed up into a football pitch with a little bit of work and the Purple Line should be finished by 2026 connecting Metro with the stadium.

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OctoberCaddis t1_j167g95 wrote

We could also blame Charles fucking Allen for obstructing productive redevelopment of RFK. I don’t care at all about the Commies but DC should have a full size stadium for large events. Yes, I’m talking about Taylor Swift.

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AsbestosIn0bstetrics t1_j18x9vb wrote

Then maybe try to get Taylor Swift to pay for a new stadium. She sure as fuck could afford it. Call it Taylor Swift Field at RFK Stadium. Invite the Commanders back on the condition that they're renamed the Washington Taylorswifts.

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johnbrownbody t1_j167tro wrote

Building a giant new stadium in DC proper with taxpayer money is a waste of it.

Allen is the pinata for everything, huh? FedEx field being shitty is probably his fault in your warped, singular mind. Try having more complex thoughts

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AsbestosIn0bstetrics t1_j18xfei wrote

Guess we know who on reddit knows what Charles Allen's dick tastes like!

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johnbrownbody t1_j18yq7v wrote

It is not unsurprising that people singularly obsessed with Charles Allen also think a lot about his penis.

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Ike348 t1_j16zh4t wrote

> capitol city

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tirkman t1_j17ex5i wrote

Honest question, why was FedEx field not considered for real? I know Dan Snyder sucks but fed ex field is one of the biggest stadiums in terms of seating

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efthfj OP t1_j17fo3o wrote

Two high profile accidents where a faulty railing caused fan injuries and faulty plumbing dowsed fans with what may have been raw sewage couldn’t have helped.

Oh, and then there is this….and this.

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SandBoxJohn t1_j1bc5qw wrote

It should be noted that when Jack Kent Cooke decided to build a new stadium for his NFL teem, he made it clear that it could be used to host the Olympics or the World Cup.

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spaceheatr t1_j17ec6z wrote

Honestly it’s just sad to not have a world class venue in DC in general.

What do we have now? Nats park? Anthem? Capitol One Arena? FedEx?

I'm not particularly stoked on any of those venues.

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jeffderek t1_j17jlng wrote

Wolf Trap IMO is a world class venue, but it's kind of niche.

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stache_twista t1_j18uxhw wrote

DC isn't a sports town (compared to Boston, Philly, Chicago, Cleveland, etc. it's not I'm sorry). But we do have world-class public spaces and museums. I hope they turn RFK into another park with event space (like Wolf Trap).

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greenthanks75 t1_j19g72q wrote

What makes a sports town? DC was fanatical about the Nats and Caps when they won titles.

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stache_twista t1_j19nqvh wrote

The Browns were selling out games when they were 0-16. DC is too corporate/transplant/transient to support bad teams like that. I don't even know if there's a sports bar in my neighborhood.

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owlplate t1_j1ab1y8 wrote

Dc was a sports town through the 90s. All we needed to see was the rg3 blip years to know it’s just lying dormant.

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TrueVCU t1_j19cb7l wrote

Because we don't want to deal with even MORE tourist nonsense?

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DefinitelyAFakeName t1_j18tvl8 wrote

God no thank you. It's the same as the Olympics, no city EVER makes its money back from that. All well get is a couple more stadiums left to decay for a few decades before they get torn down

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greenthanks75 t1_j19fmwv wrote

This Cup is being played in existing stadiums. All of the USA stadiums chosen are current NFL stadiums

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efthfj OP t1_j15lrg6 wrote

Was it the embarrassing state of FedEx field or the embarrassing state of Dan Snyder!!??

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Heliordant t1_j15z76b wrote

That's the thing where they flop around on the grass and cozy up to autocrats, right?

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ExtentConscious t1_j163g4z wrote

The first mistake is having a country that does not care about soccer host the World Cup a second fucking time.

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Mareofthedmv t1_j16a8eo wrote

One in three Americans watch football as of April 2022, so I don’t know what you mean about not caring about it. I believe it with the crowds at football pubs on a Saturday morning - even when I lived at the west coast a big derby would draw a crowd at 4:30 am.

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SkyeMreddit t1_j16pyjy wrote

Soccer is ever increasingly popular, especially because of the Women’s World Cup wins and the growing Hispanic/Latino population

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frameddummy t1_j16t1kc wrote

The USA is the best country in the world to host the world cup. The wealthiest, the largest population, all the infrastructure already exists. Way more large cities than you need venues.

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Psychological-Emu287 t1_j16dd7s wrote

Can you believe a POS city like Kansas City is hosting the WC? I guess is Afghanistan, Sudan, Lebanon, and the Philippines qualify they won’t be able to differentiate their countries from a conservative cesspool like Kansas City. I’m embarrassed that they are representing this country. Let’s hope the elite kids of England, France, don’t find themselves in that dump. God, I can’t stop thinking of all their overweight populace and their people with no dental care and poor taste in fashion. I want to vomit.

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dkfivndmwocjnz t1_j16dulp wrote

This has got to be a bit right? I’m biting on bait? KC has a massive soccer scene from MLS to youth development.

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dynospectrum7 t1_j16ktoa wrote

Columbus, Denver, or Charlotte would have been much better choices.

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Psychological-Emu287 t1_j16e25r wrote

I know they are a big soccer town but the city is garbage? That’s the point

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Cantonloupe t1_j179b3p wrote

>Can you believe a POS city like Kansas City is hosting the WC?

Kansas City wouldn't be my top choice of places to live, but it certainly isn't nearly as terrible as you seem to think it is and will be a convenient central location for soccer fans across a large swath of the country.

>Kansas City is a conservative cesspool

Biden handily won both Kansas City counties (Jackson, MO and Wyandotte, KS), not to mention suburban Johnson County and the nearby college towns in Douglas and Riley counties.

>Their poor taste in fashion

When I went to Kansas City I did see a remarkable number of people wearing sports jerseys, but this doesn't seem like a huge problem for a sporting event...

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